Now my question to you is when they started Thunder cars back in im gonna say the early 90's and then ran stock bucket seats and seat belts, very few bars did you try to have the division done away with?
Glad you asked Brandon. I wasn't running the the early 90's I would've been 12. But anyhow. I've run metrics in a stock seat, with stock 3 point belt, stock gas tank in the trunk, coveralls and no cage, only one bar behind the drivers seat from the sheet metal floor to the sheet metal roof. I was a moron..... Peterborough endro series.. Its an acident waiting to happen... They had a moron taken out in an abulance because he didn't fasten his battery down..
Thats why now I am in favor of safety. I'm not a freak about it, I don't wear a HANS, I don't even wear a neck brace or gloves, but some of the 4 fun stuff is just scary. I promise you one death in those conditions will end it for ATLEAST that track.
As I've pointed out again and again, safty isn't 1 million dollars. But racing isn't free. Spending 30 bucks to secure your battery, not up under the hood is an example.
If the track is interested in getting people into racing, as they should they should do it safely. Like CCS's deal on the roll cage. Only problem I have with that, is you have to go fast (unsafely without a cage) to win in. And the mear fact that you would want a cage means that you were running without one. Kinda like giving a helmet to the head injury victum. Heres a what if.. A guy at CCS is leading the 4-funs in points on the last night. He crashes, injuring himself because he didn't have a cage. The number 2 driver, because of the crash, gains enough points to take over top place. Who gets the cage? LOL
Don't skimp on the rules, help those that want to get into the sport get into it. HAve a meet the drivers night, not to give out candy to the kids, but for those interested to come and talk to the drivers, and learn how to do it right. OPEN INVITATION from me a driver, want a cage in your car, don't have the stuff to do it, give me a call. Bring your car over, with your tubes, some wire (maybe a 6 pack of beer for me if you are nice) and I'll show you how to weld it in, can do it right here, use my MIG.
So yeah, maybe I would like to see the 4-fun class as it is now killed. Much better I think than someone getting killed to kill it.
As for the 60 car count, yeah you do have to break it up, but you don't need another class. For example, at Kawartha, there is Reyns and Mayhew in Thunder. I might be on the track with them, but they are in another class to me.. Racing still goes on, those guys battle for the win, a few try and get up there with them, and a lot of the pack has their own battle/race. I'd be the last guy in the world to want Thunder class (Reyns, Mayhew, Poulton, Ford, Strawn) and Thunder Jr class (me and others)... Same with the minis...
See im not saying that im against saftey upgrades im just saying that if you keep a small break in the rules its going to create a feeder class that is going to be a little more affordable...how much are racing rims and etc...i mean small difference that where if you want to move up and spend more money then by all means....what the point in cancelling this division bringing the rules together only to split the cars again......i mean if you get these cars on the same saftey standards and a small performance difference its going to ensure a safer division and keep more cars on the track.
Yep roll cage in 4 funs would be a good start. I have always said the track should link up with somebody and ask for a discounted offer. Think about it if the track approached CSC and said we want all 4 funs to have a minimum enduro style cage (which sells for around $230) we would like to give you the chance to sell them to 40 cars for $175. Talk to a welder and ask if he can offer a $50 deal to weld them in. I remember Bob Phinemore coming to the track with a armload of neck braces selling them for $10 or something. They were swooped up. Maybe Ron at Bayside could offer something like this.
Faulkens are now Faulken Zeis and are about $80 at a few locations in Barrie (Superior Tire for one).
No matter how much we talk on here makes no difference. We don't own the track. I am no Mickey but I am sure Wes will step up at the end of the season when it is time to rewrite the rules and will make things safe for that class.
u can buy them at kawartha 115 a pop...do some HW! just not for the price junior was selling them for!!! haha...
Ok, so here is the low down on the falken tire debacle......I was able to get them and sell them for $85.00 a pop and still make some coin....now that being said, people are paying upwards of the $115.00 per tire....hmmmm, so someone is hosing the racing comunity hardcore!! Im sure if you look hard enough you can get them cheaper but because I was able to do this at such a low cost to the drivers, the "big" companies whined and cried to falken to the point of childish crap and falken decided to kill the little guys and stick with the big guys (Hosers), so that is how they monopolized the tracks with falkens. Food for thought, KD sells for $115.00, I would have and was selling for $85.00 this year....thats a $30.00 split and the supplier was getting them for the same price I was, now I know KD gets them for somewhere between $90 to $95 each, i saw the sheet from the supplier and I can bet you that the supplier gets them for around the $50 to $55 each mark.....do the math! I was trying to do a good thing but guess what, it didnt work.....have fun making these guys rich! ;D
I run the Azenis...
And junior what u were doing was awesome...if i was smart i woulda bought 8....
Thayne, if i was smarter, I would have ordered all 105 they had in stock before the hammer dropped....then that would have been funny watching these suppliers whine and cry more! oh well, I tried??