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(@barrie97ps)
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as per NASCAR rules, if you are spun under yellow, i think you do get your spot back...but i could be mistaken.


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(@midamerica)
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Just for the record.
Under a yellow flag, caution race procedure, the cars are to stay in line and not advance a position. Any Car advancing his position under yellow will be penalized at Nascar's discretion and a minimum penalty of a stop and go will be enforced. In the case the incident causes a loss in posistion or an advancement of scoring, the car in question will be marked in the running position prior to the yellow flag and his position will be protected at the time of the incidence. A car found to be eligible for a penalty under these circumstances will be given the position he feels he is running in until review of the incident. At the time of incident the car will be posted in the poisition he was running prior to, and at the time of the caution flag.

IN SHORT: Gordon was leading prior to and at the time of yellow, and under NASCARs rule the running order should have returned to the order of position prior to, and up to the caution flag.

I don't care if it was Gordon or Richard Petty... the rules on which a drivers race to are supposed to be fact, not a penalty because the guy thought he was in the right.. he was in the position that should have entitled him to the lead- NOT STARTING 14TH.
NASCAR makes the rules, not me- so NASCAR... follow your own damn rules !!!


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(@Statsman)
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Just for the record.
Under a yellow flag, caution race procedure, the cars are to stay in line and not advance a position. Any Car advancing his position under yellow will be penalized at Nascar's discretion and a minimum penalty of a stop and go will be enforced. In the case the incident causes a loss in posistion or an advancement of scoring, the car in question will be marked in the running position prior to the yellow flag and his position will be protected at the time of the incidence. A car found to be eligible for a penalty under these circumstances will be given the position he feels he is running in until review of the incident. At the time of incident the car will be posted in the poisition he was running prior to, and at the time of the caution flag.

IN SHORT: Gordon was leading prior to and at the time of yellow, and under NASCARs rule the running order should have returned to the order of position prior to, and up to the caution flag.

I don't care if it was Gordon or Richard Petty... the rules on which a drivers race to are supposed to be fact, not a penalty because the guy thought he was in the right.. he was in the position that should have entitled him to the lead- NOT STARTING 14TH.
NASCAR makes the rules, not me- so NASCAR... follow your own damn rules !!!

If the yellow came out for the Pruitt/Harvick/Fellows/et all wreck then Ambrose was still the leader.

In one of the replay angles if you watched the top of the screen instead of the wreck you will see Gordon just starting to put the bumper to Ambrose as the havok is breaking out behind them. The commentators mentioned the rear bumper damage that was likely caused by this pass by Gordon that was also very likely under the yellow.

So both drivers made contact passes under yellow. Perhaps both should have been sent back.

NASCAR made a call and maybe it was wrong but on making the call they should have stopped the race to get Gordon into line if he wasn't going to listen. Otherwise they left Ambrose as a sitting duck for what everyone knew was going to happen to him. Maybe that was the result of not penalizing him for his apparent retaliation on Gordon.

Does anyone remember the race at Sears Point where Ricky Rudd spun Davey Allison and Allison was given the win with Rudd getting the black flag? In that race I think Davey recovered to be the next car running on the track. Seems like a different age though doesn't it?


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(@midamerica)
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The history in NASCAR's BAD CALLS is in book form and now available at Zellars.
The title of the book is- 'Opps I did it again' co written by Brittney Spears.

NASCAR never makes a bad call- just ask them !!   


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(@hill3)
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maybe what happened is exactly what nascar wanted to happen. maybe they took the lesson from 1979?(help) in the daytona 500 at the end. the fight is now legend. look how much time and ether net we have taken talking about this finish.ps mid my problem is completely with the manner with which gordon handle himself.


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