And for the record, $40 one day pit pass kept me home, that's retarded!

No problem, others agree it's fine the way it is.  I feel it use to be perfect when cars were turning 16 seconds or slower.  I've raced on Flamboro for the past 4 decades and find it's too narrow, not too short, just not wide enough.  There is no way OSCAAR or any other class that's fast will run side by side like they do at other wider tracks.   I do think it's plenty long, it just runs out of track at the end of the straights, cars on the outside are doomed and if you want to pass you have to do it on the inside or worse, hit the car out of the way.

The OSCAAR finale at Sunset between Watson and Clark would be a classic anywhere in North America, especially the final 15 laps.

As for the gate, we use to pay that kind of money when both OSCAAR and the CVM were there. It seemed a lot of money for 5 features on the Sunday.  However, given the length of time it took to run those 5, three more classes would have had us there all night.

I'm thinking re the cause of the camping ban is that the track ran afoul of some bylaws about 20 years ago or more  (anyone help me here?) with the neighbours complaining about noise, rowdiness of some of the campers, etc. For a while I think this also led to some races not starting (not even turning a motor) until 3pm or 4pm which would scare away fans from attending Sunday events, especially those who had to travel. Obviously, the starting time has been eased up a bit but could Sunday's show been started at 1pm instead of 3pm for example?. The track wouldn't have had to rent the extra corner lights and maybe could afford proper security instead.
Right now, the best shows seem to be done by the Can-Am midgets as they are the right size for the track. The minis come a close second.
As far as Oscaar-jury is out in my head-they are loud and exotic but can't do side by side at Flamboro any longer either and there seems to be a larger disparity in equipment quality than in the (Pro) Late Models. Remember the Auto Value Sprint cars couldn't pass there either even with a 15" wide rear tire.
Something needs to be done to bring this show up to par. A revitalized Sunset has become a major player in the quest for the racers &  racefan's fall dollar. Honestly, I think the classes that don't bring anywhere near a full field should be weeded out. I wonder too about the health of the Lucas Oil Sportsman series with the number of defections that were made this year to late models.

Mike I agree.  There are tons of Late Models around as well as Limitded Lates, and the talent pool in both series is very strong. 

We ran basically the same cars at Sunset on September 24th as were at Flamboro and there were three yellows, no one rode any walls or even hit the wall.

In 1996 Jr. Hanley sat on the pole at Flamboro with a big winged car turning 15:86.  The slowest cars are turning that now.  Most of the top Late Models are in the 15:2's and 3", some even faster.  They have out grown the track.  It's too late now to do anything about it, I mean like slowing them down a second, because since the introduction of the Crate motor, teams have learned to make their cars handle better. 

I think it would make a decent tr-oval, a little different than the rest, but wide enough and banked enough to provide side by side racing for OSCAAR. If they can do it, anyone can.

Not sure about the camping thing, it may be a neighbour deal.

part deux: I was sitting with Art Bicknell, brother of dirt modified star Pete Bicknell, at Flamboro and we were pondering if something like a dirt sportsman race on asphalt might be something to be considered. There are likely 50-60 dirt sportsman cars in the Niagara region, most parked for the season after mid Sept. Wonder if the 140 team from Durham (Mark Dixon) would ever consider bringing their dirt sportsman down for a test run?
This year 358 dirt mods ran one race at Lancaster and ran regularly on the pavement at Airborne, NY. Dirt sportsmen ran on the pavement at Malta NY and Devils Bowl Vt. All on dirt tires.
Otherwise, if there is no forseeable improvement being scheduled to the facilty, maybe it's just time to make it a big well paying one day show for the track's three regular divisions. Some of you guys as old as me likely remember when this show was part of the Pinecrest-Flamboro challenge series. Basically two divisions-a lot of cars-and a lot of excitement
I saw an interesting quote recently re the difference between dirt racers and pavement racers regarding big races. Dirt racers ask how much to win and pavement guys ask how much to start?