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(@RANDY)
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Hey Grease,
I really doubt a piston stop would work through the spark plug hole due to the angle of the hole in the heads.
Now I could be wrong on this, but I don't think it would work.
Also, with the c/r of the limited engine - I doubt they are running the deck clearance that tight (I expect the piston to be down the bore about .020) which will make it even worse.
Again, I may be wrong on this - it would have to be tried.
As for the camshaft specs - I think that would soften it too much on the bottom end and you wouldn't be able gain it back quick enough.
I would suggest a different profile - but I would have to do some more math to confirm it.

RS

P.S. Hill3 - That's my point - thay have to start doing more than they are currently or it's going to get way out of hand. The guys complaining are also the same guys that are absolutely convinced that the fast cars are cheating and think that they are also going to have to do it to keep up. Fact is, nobody can tell these guys without a doubt that they are wrong and show them the proof to back it up.


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(@hill3)
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then randy the teams need to start putting pressure on the tracks or sanctioning bodies to get tough on teching. hit them where it hurts, the teams control car count use that no cars no show no fans no money they should see the light or go extinct


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(@FromTheStands)
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I can't even begin to get into the technical side of things that you guys are but it's obvious that there are as many ways to check an engine as there are ways to be creative.

The only thing I see is what happens on the track.

The Delaware Super Stocks that run the 602 engine recently ran qualifying for their special show format.
The top 5 were 2/10ths apart, the top 10 cars were less than 5/10ths apart and the top 20 were under 1 sec. apart. On a 1/2 mile that's some pretty close qualifying.
Of course, sand bagging could have been going on but I find it unlikely.

There was a time when one or two cars would easily have over 1 sec.on the entire field. Not any more.

Now we just need 2 grooves.

I hope your call to step up tech inspections doesn't go unheeded. Crate motors are saving racetracks all over. I'm sure there will be a trickle down effect from just this posting started by Pincrest. Maybe that was his intent all along. So maybe he isn't John Saunders after all.


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(@Pinecrest)
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No I am not John Saunders .

I do hope that threads like this wake up some of the techs that don't even bother to look at the crates . I think there are a few cheater crates out there probally not many but there are a few and they have to weed them out and come down like a ton of bricks on the guys that get caught .

I am a built engine guy but I do realize that crates are the future but that doesn't mean I have to like it . Hey I was against putting the engines in the back of Indy cars and obsoleting those beautiful roadsters and I still think midgets should be running Offys they sounded soooo good . I know I am a dinosaur but its just how it is.

I also realize there is a bunch of kids with their baseball caps on backwards reading this going "what the hell is an Offy"  go ask your grandfather.


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(@thunder6)
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I know what an Offy is Pinecrest. Aren't they all museum pieces now? They came shortly after the wheel. I'm just kidding, personally I wish I could have been around in the heyday of Can-Am, to see the Turbopanzer, Chapparals and McLarens in that virtually unlimited racing series. In some ways I think the old days were better, maybe not as safe, but those guys were gladiators.


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