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I get the issue with equipment changes, but what do you mean about formats and dates and such? You mean running a 40 lap feature instead of 25?


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The constant rule changes are the reason I traded off my Super Stock to go to Trucks.  For a back marker/low budget guy like me, being told half my car is suddenly illegal is completely crushing.  We built a car around a competitive Automatic with direct drive (which the rules allowed in 2010) and was just figuring out how to get the thing to run right, and the tech guys changed their mind again--not just about the direct drive, but banning automatics altogether!.  Trans, clutch, linkage, shifter, flywheel, new rear end gear... We can't afford that.

So I can see the same argument on a number of other things in the class.  For what it's worth I think the Truck rules are doing a decent job of maintaining consistent rules.  Dropping the rev limiters, at least for budget-minded guys like us helped.  The only pain in the ass was setting the ride height (and roof hight, more importantly) too high.  And they corrected that for this year.

I've made my feelings clear on the fibreglass cars in Super Stock already, in the past threads about them.  The problem is not the bodies, the problem was a lack of foresight in seeing how a much lower body weight would affect handling. The cars might have the same race weight, but the steel cars have much more weight up high in the body/chassis, and that's where the main disadvantage lies, in my opinion.  We'd thrown ideas around about placing weight up high on the fibreglass cars, but that's kinda goofy... I'm not really sure there's an easy solution to this.

But yeah I do agree it's the way the class "has" to go.  It's almost impossible to find 70s Camaros and Novas anymore, and Metric cars are VERY scarce up North, and that will soon be a problem around here too.  And as mentioned already, kids today will identify much better with late model musclecars than the old stuff.


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 The problem is not the bodies, the problem was a lack of foresight in seeing how a much lower body weight would affect handling. The cars might have the same race weight, but the steel cars have much more weight up high in the body/chassis, and that's where the main disadvantage lies, in my opinion.

That said and with practice in is this years left side weight advantage for the steel bodies enough to counter the low weight of the glass cars?


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Format changes and yes an increase in laps as well are still changes. Some people had brake issues with the increase to 50 laps last year. 35-40 might or might not be an issue that is yet to be determined. The trucks with NCTS? I'm not sure that is a positive.
I'm not trying to bitch for the sake of bitching I'm only trying to verbalize the the confusion that exists out there based upon communication I have had with different people I come into contact with. People are pretty bewildered with the al the changes.
I truly hope this all pans out in the end and things come out rosie for the the owners and I mean that quite sincerely, however it doesn't look like we will participate much if at all in the SS this years as I'm not confident the expenditures of tires and fuel will out way the rewards of they way things hace gone in the SS division. Get a fair stable rules package that promotes racing with the common goal of putting a show for the fans at a reasonable cost to the teams and maybe you'll have something. 4 cars running away with the show probably isn't the fan magnet people seem to think it is


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