I 100% agree with the above post about Flamboro needing to be on the 8 inch tires. And I don't think you'd have to go to Hoosier since they have the longstanding connection with American Racer. I know American Racer makes 8 inch tires...then you're really drawing comparisons between durometer readings as far as bringing tires from one track to the other between Hoosiers and American Racers. But it was done before when Kawartha was on Goodyears and everyone else was on Hoosiers.

But just a couple of winters ago when Flamboro opened up the LM tire debate, I thought they would be leaning towards 8 inch, but the end result to come out of it ended up being an even softer left side 10 inch tire. That's the point where I kinda lost my desire to move up to LM there, cuz the cars got a little faster and the passing got a little less frequent.

No one saying Delly's rules are bad, the hard line is cost of tires. If you add in gear changes, travel time, fuel, possibly overnight accommodations,a race weekend can be staggering. All in all, finding a way to get people to the track, and continually returning is the key. Adding weight, or donkey-punching someone to slow them down doesn't always make them leave. I'm pretty sure most of us know of one track in the area that does enforce a good set of fairness rules, and regularly have B mains because there's too many cars. It sure as heck isn't the payouts, if you look at their structures. This doesn't work for all classes, LM's should be free to do a little more to get an edge to a point. I mean that is the essence of racing. Most teams race because they love it, obviously not to make money. But burning little Jimmy's college tuition to take the family racing for one night, puts people back a bit. Just saying.

I never said he did or anyone did .....he was stating here are  the rules he would have ....I was stating Delaware would have no late models ,if we ran those rules ,also I was stating delly LM rules are fine(as far as the old ACT motor rules I wasn't there I have no dog in that fight) I own a late model  and pay for it and drive it,im happy with the rules as they are  ,also if you look back to page 1 of this topic,I wrote about how much it costs to travel the example was varney,and the big cost in that race was the tires ,and the crappy pay out,the truth is nobody has the answer,to making the 200 full of cars and I sure as hell would not want to own any race track,i do think theres lots of good idea that come from this fourm/topic maybe there reading maybe not but in the end its on them,but I do know one thing for sure .... I will be there running havin a blast even if its on new/old tires .....

I'm curious about something. Delly has a tire inventory rule. You're only allowed like 1 new tire a week or something, yes?

If Flammy has the same rule (which I cannot find, so I'm not sure) then even saying they can run their 10 inch AR tires doesn't really help any does it? What I mean is that they would have to dip into their own inventory...correct?

And lol...would that mean they had to pay Delaware's 25 dollar per tire fine for not buying from McColls?  😀  

I'm curious about something. Delly has a tire inventory rule. You're only allowed like 1 new tire a week or something, yes?

If Flammy has the same rule (which I cannot find, so I'm not sure) then even saying they can run their 10 inch AR tires doesn't really help any does it? What I mean is that they would have to dip into their own inventory...correct?

And lol...would that mean they had to pay Delaware's 25 dollar per tire fine for not buying from McColls?  😀  

No inventory rule at Flamboro. There is about 5 or 6 teams that are bolting on 4 brand new tires each week. Talking to some drivers about an inventory rule, some really want an inventory rule in place, and some have said they would quit if one was put into place.

The 10 inch AR tires used to be allowed at Delaware for specials, but they had to be used. I think that went away after David Elliott finished 2nd in the 200 as a Flamboro regular. But I don't blame Delaware for not allowing them, because the term "used" can be very loosely interpreted unless tech is going to measure tread depth, but that's a lot of extra hassle on a busy special event race day. Plus Flamboro likely wouldn't allow Hoosiers, because Grisdale sponsors the LM class and most of the specials, and they are the AR tire dealer. I think its right in the rules somewhere that to qualify for full payout for specials you have to run tires purchased at Grisdale.

The difference in tires is part of the reason the Flamboro cars wont come, but more importantly they have a scheduled points event that night. Whats makes Delaware think guys are going to miss that to come run the 200? I have talked to some of the Flamboro guys and they say its more than the tires that keep them away.

Is there any other options for the format that will make a 20 car or less field more exciting for the fans other than TT's and a 200 lap race? We used to run twin 50's a 100 and call it the GC200. How about bringing the Lucas Oil Sportsman in to run a 100 lapper along side a LM 100?? Would have to be a none points event for them, but they drew a reasonable car count for their visit and the race was quite entertaining.

It would be nice to hear Delaware's take on this.... they must be confident that all is good and that by some small miracle cars will come out of no where and all will be fine. I doubt it, but hey me just dumb driver!!!