I wish i could build an enduro car, but i doubt my dad would help pay for an enduro car for a 15 year old (myself) to just ride around and get lapped by the guys with the big pockets, we need to do what Brighton Speedway is doing, have a good purse and attract guys from other tracks and guys building a one off car, and i wish i could've seen 1990's enduros, sounds crazy but now its like watching the Cup Series, the big pockets win and the small guys sometimes don't get mentioned
I might add that a used 602 can be piced up for $1500 to $2000. Not many teams buy new crates for enduro.
Think people forget that you can run enduro affordable and still get a decent pay out for it! Buy a 4 banger and run like that I've never had any issue with just running 4 cyl. Last race cost me 35 bucks in gas for 150 laps and I won 200 bucks thats profit!!!!!
Think people forget that you can run enduro affordable and still get a decent pay out for it! Buy a 4 banger and run like that I've never had any issue with just running 4 cyl. Last race cost me 35 bucks in gas for 150 laps and I won 200 bucks thats profit!!!!!
Delaware has been playing with the payouts so that cars throughout the field can get payed so that is a good thing but.......150 laps does not an Enduro make. In order to be an Enduro the races need to be at least 2 hours in length (3 or 4 hours even better), run rain or shine and have a field that fills the track. In order to fill the track there should only be one or two events a year and the payout to win (endure) needs to be at least $5000 with draw payouts and payouts for the best of each class of vehicle. If they get back to the timed duration instead of lap duration then what Enduro is supposed to be can be realized. Also reinstate the $400.00 engine claim rule (or whatever you can get a running engine from the bone yard for now) and problem solved. I know I'm sounding like a broken record but this class is NOT Enduro anymore. Even touting the Bone Stocks as the Enduro of the 80's is stretching the truth a bit. As soon as people admit what this class actually is now the sooner we can move on and either develop it back into endurance racing or keep going as a lower cost part time Thunder Car class. People keep asking what it would take to get back to the 80's and 90's success. Pull the Enduro rules (which was on one sheet of 8" x 11" paper) out of the file cabinet and go. If you don't want to do that then stop asking and move on.
Just to clear up a few myths.
1. Enduro was never timed.
2. Enduro was 250 laps, every time. No more no less, except on the occasion when they tried a special format that had heats, like the Nationals. Then sometimes it was 200. The 2 heat and 150 lap thing they do now is only a few years old.
3. 180 cars was NEVER the norm. (That's a rose-colored glasses thing) Sure it happened a few times, but 90-120 is more accurate....and that was in the good years.
4. You could compete back then with a purely stock car? No...that pretty much ended after the second enduro race. Book has been dominating these things since day 1, and even in the earliest years, there was always only a handful that could really get it done.
The old enduro rule format is just so broken it can't be fixed. And if you take away all the Enduro events and make it one or two per year, that's quite a few paydays the track misses out on.
All they can do, and I believe this is the plan, is to promote the hell out of the bone stocks as the "new enduro" and hope it catches on.
My radical suggestions...for the suggestion box
As food for thought, I suggest they should make a new FRIDAY NIGHT division. Call them Bombers or whatever, like Ernie pointed out. (anything but "Enduro") Use exactly same tech rules as current Enduro rules. Take that 4th division and put it into the FRIDAY NIGHT rotation like before when we had the Powerade modifieds....and make the payouts at least the same as the trucks, with a real points fund that is exclusive to Friday night racing.
Benefits
- Some guys might migrate to Fridays. We do enough of those "all star races" already, so we're sorta already halfway there.
-they can still run in the enduro class if they like.
- Some guys might sell their Enduro cars to guys that want to race fridays only.
- Frees things up for people to think they might have a chance to win an enduro in a 4 banger...and helps along the focus/switch to exclusively 4-6 banger cars for endurance races. (You're never gonna get 120 guys buildng 4 banger enduros while the Camaros and Montes are still on the track. EVER.)
- Frees things up for ex SS guys that still have cars, but didn't want anything to do with Super Stock's "Ultimate Evolution"
Bottom line - if the track is happy, and makes money with enduro the way it is, and they figure its sustainable over time, then it'll stay the same. However if they truly want to get the 4-6 bangers into enduro in a big way, then there's no way to do it besides radical housecleaning....which I advocate.
