I am worried the rule enforcement mantra at the track, is going to deminish car count. Tiger's car (different division to mine) is not he first casualty to rule enforcement or change. I am not building my original truck for Enduro, because I wanted to build a replacement frame. It is close to a full tube setup, but would be powered with a V6. 2x4 box section at the door sills, instead of stock frame 6-8 inches under my seat. I wanted the safety, and yes there is a marginal advantage to it. It simply means using stock, and getting creative with the roll cage, but still it miffed me alittle. I will stand behind Sheridans ruling, simply because my frame does not follow the rules. I agree, but it was more of a fun thing to build it... and the added safety. So now I have moved directions to build another Honda (for now), until my dirt car is done. I will be building a Honda Accord, because it is mid-sized by the insurance bureau of Canada, and manufacturers specs.
I am sure this new system implemented (rule enforcement) is not an attack at anyone individually. I believe it is enforcement to keep costs down, and bring our divisions back to where they should be. Street Stock (sorry Super old habits) are flying faster and that division looks great. Trucks have caught up to SS speeds of three years ago (or very close), and mods have gotten so costly, its better to run a Late Model.
I agree with the total picture, and I can see what they are trying to accomplish. Hopefully, it doesn't lower the car count so much, it hurts divisons. I will say, there are guys in Enduro running borderline rule infractions, and that's not uncommon (sub 24 or over 24 seconds), and hope the tech guys take into consideration there is very few people willing to build/run cars anymore.
The argument has come up that it is directly from the cost, and that is true 1/4 of the time. If an Enduro car was four grand to be competitive (not a joke when you see crates and AFCO shocks), I can see the few guys saying "forget running for that cost". On average, Enduro gets three to four new guys a year. In the old days there was 15-20 a race. I would say half these new guys will stick for a full season, and even less stay after a major car wreck. Mainly, it is the overall cost, not the cost of running top five. If you add it up, running Enduro per race.. admission for self and crew 20-120 bucks, gas 100-150 bucks, food, oil, tires (one a race average wear/tear cuts/blowouts) is insane.
This is not the tracks fault, or the level of competition, that's racing. Inflation's done it, and that's that. You could rattle on about economy whatever, but bottom line is our sport is not cheap. But if a guy wants to race, he will get strapped in a cheap junkbox and go.
There are a lot of fast cars in our division, and hopefully these guys don't get hurt too badly. Most of them have good setups, or have just learned it from years of being there. And from what I've seen, most guys are not to far our of the rules. I have looked at most of the top guys cars, and would say they pass. Certain guys just drive that good, you know who you are. You can see that just in the points roster, which guys run well. Very few of the top guys have illegal parts. There were some one-hit wonders who came out and shattered a few things, but they get ousted quickly.
some i get some i don't get, the no electric fan is a pain in butt we had som much trouble with fans
now this one I don't get, how do you have trouble with mechanical fans?
Blades flying off and fighting to keep the temperature down. We had blade fly off and it hit our tranny cooler hose, luckily it was braided stainless and only dented the line. Temperature was always a struggle.
Wow what a disappointment.
How is it that you take all of these drivers crews and owners and gather them together to discuss rules and have them all agree on things and not listen to a frickin word of what they are asking for?
I find it totally rediculous that Delaware took mine and everyone elses time and changed none of what the 12 or 15 drivers in the truck class asked for.
We all agreed manuel trannys where a great option.
We asked for less races cause 17 killed our crews and budgets.
Asked for a ride height rule and eliminate the roof height rule.
We all agreed that these things would help us out long term and eliminate alot of extra expense for the teams.
If 15 guys who pay the bills on a class ask for something and they all agree on it How do you not listen to them?
The complaint was the old race director may have stopped listening but did the new one ever start?
You do have some valid points LMFAN. Takes some balls to post that on here lol.
Just finished cutting up the old throne king truck. Went to fix it but what a piece of....... lol
I'm fine with all the rule changes as long as they are all enforced equally and completely.
I need to call to get some clarifications to ensure we understand the rules.
My only head scratcher was the SS shock rule. We had a vote with all the teams in the SS division at the nightly driver meeting and asked if they want or don't what the Pro shock with the removable ends. We all voted in favor, even those that weren't running them at the time. By the end of the season I'm sure all but maybe one or two teams were running them. Now we told everyone they can't run them and that $88 is the cost limit. So now all the teams are sitting with $397 worth of shocks that are no use and having to spend another $280+ on new shock. Not really a cost saving measure, but that's the rule.
Looking forward to getting the car ready now, and I bet they will be faster then ever.
