how do those points make any sense especially LLM

The points are ONLY for the local guys running for the local championship, not the Stefko / McColl point standings.

I agree 100 percent with you WESLEY.. Adding a modest # (say 25-30) of home track "Show Up" points is the way to go to get these home track cars to attend the invi's.. Taking a look at the Barrie point standings currently I'd hazard a guess to say all 7 of the now regular runners woulda attended this past Fri if that was the case.. Quesnelle woundt wanna lose 30 to Inglis, Shepherd wouldnt wanna lose 30 to Quesnelle and on down the line.. As long as its stipulated before the season begins this will be the case that's the way to go.. I understand some guys work and stuff on the nights of these invi's but if you can't get a select night off your job giving 2-3 months notice  or change your shifts around you really need a new profession!! ;D

As for tires well that's a different animal but as you say bolt on old tires or start and park if you arent really serious about a travelling series title..

Well.......... I'm not sure what the right formula would be, but I need to clarify a few things.

The "Points" surrounding this discussion is for home track cars running for their local championship. They would not be "added" / used for the Stefko / McColl Series. None of the tracks do anyway.

The way JP does it is a unique formula and I'm not sure how he came up with the 86 points as the figure, but I suspect it's a blend of top ten point position scenarios for regular track races. It's enough of a incentive for local guys to show up and run - if they are chasing points. If they aren't - then it's irrelevant anyway and they stay home. But for the top runners, if one of them is running, that pretty much 'forces' the  other top contenders to at least show up and start the feature.

Had Barrie made it a regular night of racing, implementing the point system JP has, would have worked. But there's some obstacles to doing so, among them rules, regulations and sanction:

a) Is such a points night allowed to have a show up format race event in the NASCAR Whelan series (I think the answer is no -  but someone should clarify that for us)

b) Is it within the race format rules allowed in the Whelen series event system, especially since there is more than one track running Whelen rules - (probably not). This is particularly true for cars that are allowed to run in an invitation that have different car rules (weights, wheel base, body styles allowed, etc)

c) Does the Whelen Series "sanction" races such as this to be allowed in the point system. I doubt it, hence why many tracks simply offer additional nights of racing - hence invitationals and are not considered point events. I maybe wrong, but it's why such events such as Delaware's Great Canadian Race 200, Kyle Busch invitational are kept separate. In the case of the APC / Cdn Race, Delaware made the wise move of running it AFTER the track championship has been determined to maximize car count at the event. I bet there are very specific contract agreements how NASCAR events are operated and managed.

Running a series surrounding track championship runs is always going to be a challenge for some tracks, particularly tracks such as Barrie and Delaware because of the sanctioning body rules and regulations.

just wondering if u could answer mark...what is the point fund purse for the stefko thunders.....nobody seems to know......thanks Joe