well put Thunder! Racing is Racing. no matter where you go. Theres always going to be the good, the bad and the ugly. but we all love racing whether we drive or watch.

And about cheating, anybody can say whatever they want... what we need here is P-R-O-O-F. Your representatives at the track are the promotor and the tech man. I hear a lot about so and so got away with this, and so and so got away with that, and so and so is cheating because he blows everyone else away... If you know about it, do something about it. And if the officials turn the blind eye on specific offenders all the time then don't race there. The promotor doesn't want the same guy to win every night. He would get lynched before he hit the concession road. Go somewhere where the teching is fair. If the guy cheats he's gonna hit the tech shed landmine sooner or later. I hear a lot of words about this and that and nobody does anything about it. I lost therefore someone else is cheating. Get back to the lab and do some research, crack a book, talk to someone that knows and isn't blowing smoke you know where. Whatever you gotta do. Some racers are like the boy who cried wolf. Sometimes you consider the source and believe none of it.

Thunder knows what he is talking about because i was in the same boat not being able to win and thinking everybody else must be cheating. Instead my dad and I did some things and tinkered just a little bit and it all pays off with wins out there on the track. it proves that working on the car and changing things slightly can help. But only change one thing at a time so you can tell if that one thing works. If you change a bunch of things at once then you won't know what helped and what didn't helped. That's why it takes patience getting a car dialed in properly but once you have it then you have it.

Speedway Sue or should I say "Terrible Tammy" where did you go?  Maybe somebody on here could come up with a unique nickname for you instead of your daddy's old handle.  So if Speedway Bob isn't poppa Tom, or your evil twin from within, it must be brother Paul.  You got awful quite when Pinecrest asked about your dad's championships, I guess now he knows.

Apart from being a fan of the biggest cry baby ever to disgrace Nascar 8 Dale Junior you are dumber than Tom Milligan's old left racing boot,my dad raced at Barrie and was treated like a dog after winning several  championships.