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Who Killed the Sunset Four Funs???????????

Guest · 2008-08-19T18:54:01Z

Now that I have been thinking about this all day since the new rule changes with all of 5 or 6 nights to go has killed the division. I wanted to see where the blame laid for the death of this division and i came to the conclusion theres plenty of blame to go around.Lets start with the DRIVERS, now this has to be the most diverse group of people ever to get behind the wheel of a stock car(and no I don't care if these cars fit your definition of stock car). Now the new ownership group hasn't exactly shown these driver any amount of respect and these drivers have continually misplace there anger towards this. They started from about night 2 of the new ownership when the second round of heats were dropped and a consi was picked up starting only 24 cars in the A-Main. This then lead to the slower drivers to start filing complaints about how they deserve a last place payout or tow money. They then ended up getting what they wanted and on most nights even receive a "little feature" for those who do not qualify to the A-Main. But there complaining has not stopped there, the issue then arose that they did not get enough public viewing and they no longer wanted to be the last feature. Now there was a reason they were the last feature, the former ownership group realized how many cautions these inexperienced drivers could create and how long they can make a night. And once again the drivers yelled and they received. But as it was last time they still were not happy. So the person who was doing his best to help him became there next victim(yes thats right I'm the victim) the Tech Guy, some cars were going to fast and the slow cars and drivers could not keep up(in slow drivers view the fast guys were cheating). Now I teched a probably about 10 cars or so and measured springs checked tire sizes and rating, the muffler depending on the car, and even looked for hidden ballast weight. And came up with nothing. No one go DQ'd and that did not sit well with these drivers who do not win, so what happens, they race backwards and what happens people who should have never won a race end up winning and it was just wrong in my view and many others because thats not racing that a circus. So it all comes to a head when some certain 2 faced drivers(and they know who they are) whined to the new owner at the first drivers meeting he attends that I'm not doing my job and etc etc etc so in turn the owner insults me to all the drivers and I quit. Fred takes over Four Fun tech and the complaining goes away for a short period. They get what they want again and end up racing the correct way and the same winners end up in victory lane and the complaining comes back so what happens, the rules change and no camber and no different rim sizes and the complaining goes away. But the same winners and driver continue to finish in the top 5. Now thats just there off track issues. There on track issues were clearly visible Saturday night, disregard for your fellow drivers safety so that explains itself.Also with the majority of injuries over the last few years and dramatics of some of the drivers, now I'm not down playing any of the accident this year, but there have been certain drivers that pull dramatics after accidents and now make people think these accidents and injuries are not serious(anyone remember September of 2007 pm me if you want the story).So now that the drivers have done there part it is now onto the FLAGGING STAFF.Now every year in this division except this year the ZERO contact rule has been in effect, we have seen drivers intentionally flip other drivers and just flat out wreck each other. And for all of these accident the black flag has been used the issues are solved. Rob would come down to the drivers meeting and tell us that intentional contact would result in a black flag and the contact goes away and accidents stop. How many times last year and in 2006 did this division race flag to flag. This year I have personally not seen the black flag thrown and its resulted in some serious accidents. So pretty much all of Saturdays accident, all of which broke the camels back could have been prevented if the black flag had been used this year these drivers would have feared contact with each other and these accidents would not have taken place. I understand Rob no longer flags the 4 cylinder divisions but something needed to be done and it never was. Next up is Tech StaffNow I told you my track record as Tech Man and the record in the post Rainman time. Now there were 3 Dqs in 2007 if I remember correctly, I was nailed once(heater core) as well as Terry Woodly(snow tires) and Bill Campbell(H rated tires on the borrowed track VW Jetta). Now Fred`s view of the rules was the same as many, as long as it was with in stock adjustment it was good, its a beginner and a learning division and without allowing drivers to adjust there cars how are they suppose to learn. So in my view the Tech Staff did nothing ...

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Drive32

Aug 20, 2008 12:28 am

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Oh Brendan, I agree.

It's sad when FourFuns as a group complained (or at least a little group complained.) I may have even (unknowingly... I try to be nice to everyone you know.) been involved! But I don't complain much. I think a lot of people know that. I could be a big female doggie in heat, but I don't complain often. And usually if I do, it's followed by a sad joke about my slow ass tank of a car. But hey, I do what I do and love it. But I know some drivers cried and stomped their feet all season (more than I did during the rainouts haha) about not getting enough time on the track. I can see thier point, but still. 🙁

I don't care that I never won, I drive one of the heaviest and biggest cars out on the track. Anybody who knows me knows that I am happiest in that thing! No matter how much you guys make fun of me hahaha

I agree that new track ownership had it out for us since day once, promised us that these things like the cage and fuel cell and seat and such can be done by the 09 season. And then to change gears and say DO IT BY THIS WEEKEND. Ridiculous. I fear that I won't be finishing this season, I sit here and say that's sad, I sit here and wonder what I am going to do with my time on a Saturday when I can be racing, but can't, because my car suddenly doesn't fit new random specs.

BlackFlags used to be EVERYTHING. I remember how f'in ANGRY I'd get over getting one. But now I am dying to see one being flagged at somebody and for good reason. I look back and know WHY I got them now. But hey I can get t-boned and nobody even gets a shake at, as long as I keep going and don't cause a caution, WE'RE ALL GOOD.

(Not that when I got t-bones it was anybodys fault... it just happened to happen. I am not putting blame 🙂 DON'T WORRY.)

I'm just sad that I probably won't be racing anymore this season. I agree with ragracing, maybe we should request a meeting with the Owner to discuss this. But who knows if he'll ever give us the time of day...

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JT_Racing

Aug 20, 2008 1:32 am

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Well Ashley if you need a fix one nite you are welcome to come out on a Wednesday night and take my car out for a few laps... no worries and it will give you an itch to get your car ready for next year.

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duken

Aug 20, 2008 3:39 am

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There is solo racing . Usually a course is set up in a large parking lot using pylons and it is quite cometitive. I am not sure if a non licensed for the road car qualifies however. But, it could keep the racing spirit alive for those who can no longer race at Sunset. Try a google search, there is a club that holds events frequently around the GTA.

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Drive32

Aug 20, 2008 11:18 am

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Well Ashley if you need a fix one nite you are welcome to come out on a Wednesday night and take my car out for a few laps... no worries and it will give you an itch to get your car ready for next year.

Thank you so very much for the offer, but because of work I haven't been out on a Wednesday all season! 🙁

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Amanda

Aug 20, 2008 1:43 pm

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I agree that new track ownership had it out for us since day once, promised us that these things like the cage and fuel cell and seat and such can be done by the 09 season. And then to change gears and say DO IT BY THIS WEEKEND. Ridiculous. I fear that I won't be finishing this season, I sit here and say that's sad, I sit here and wonder what I am going to do with my time on a Saturday when I can be racing, but can't, because my car suddenly doesn't fit new random specs.

I understand its alot to add these things to your car, and only given one weeks notice. But something seriously needs to be done. I wasn't there on saturday night, but my Mom told me about the accident in the 4 funs. It was only a matter of time before someone got seriously injured or worse. We've already had 2 delays this season which accidents in 4 funs, you all know the accidents I'm talking about. Luckily those people weren't seriously hurt in the end, but at the time everyone wondered. Wouldn't you want to know you were safe out there?? Everyone has to go to work Monday morning.. and remember this is supposed to be a hobby! OHHHH and it's supposed to be fun! But you'd never know it these days..

I'm happy something is being done to protect you guys out there, maybe I don't agree with the time line. But something needed to be done. You guys should have never raced with out a full roll cage etc.

I think Sunset should do what Barrie has done, have an "A" class and a "B" class, both divisions would have all the same safety rules, and if once a rookie driver got comfortable competing in the lower division they could move up, with no changes needed to there cars.

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