Yea Thayne 🙂 And Woo Who Jimmy You Daa Man and Don't be Haters LoL
Don't have a problem with how long the season at all. I have a problem when you want guys to just drive in circles and act like robots and that's what it seems like these days. Guys can't express themself and show emotions in the heat of the moment.
Then you take 12 out of 43 and say there is a race in a race. The chase is garbage and If I was a sponsor of the other teams that don't make the chase I would pull my sponsorship off the cars once the chase begins as it's all about them 12 chase drivers. The other 31 cars once the chase starts should do start and park and let the 12 chase cars go at it.
Wouldn't that be cool? The chase drivers racing 200 laps by themself on the track. That would be something I would watch. To make it intresting you get extra points for leading at different points of the race and you don't know when it is but they tell you at the end of the race.
NASCAR has a hall of fame and all but what pisses me off is they refer to drivers from the past era's sprint cup champions. Sorry they were Winston Cup champions. What is wrong with saying winston cup champion when you talk about Richard Petty? He wasn't even driving when Sprint became a sponsor so how in the hell is he a sprint cup champion? Explain this to me as I don't get it one bit.
So all CASCAR champions should be call Nascar Canadian Tire Series Champions when they talk about past champions in CASCAR?
I will be saving my money and going to local track events.
This stat shows how one driver has benefited from the chase.
Year Classic Points Champ
2004 Jeff Gordon (5) Kurt Busch (2)
2005 Tony Stewart (2) Tony Stewart
2006 Jimmie Johnson Jimmie Johnson (2)
2007 Jeff Gordon (6) Jimmie Johnson (3)
2008 Carl Edwards Jimmie Johnson (4)
2009 Jimmie Johnson (2) Jimmie Johnson (5)
2010 Kevin Harvick Jimmie Johnson(6)
They should call this the Jimmy Points system.
Don't get me wrong I'm not a Jimmy Hater. I would be saying the same thing if it was Jeff Gordon or any other driver.
This is sport is based on 43 cars not 12. I hate how the other 31 cars are nothing once the chase starts. one year this is going to happen non chase drivers are going to target chase drivers and take them out.
If this is such a great points system why hasn't any other auto racing taking it on?
Evan,
I think your mixing two components up with respects to Sprint Cup points system and how it compares to other sanctioning points system formats. First off, Sprint Cup's racing point system is a sound one. It rewards 1 through 43 a set amount of points for each car's finishing position. Then awards bonus points for most laps lead and leading a lap. With the exception of the bonus point add-ons, F-1, ARCA, ASA and others award points per race in a similar fashion.
The second component is the play-off format, which has been a bone of contention for many. It has finally brought a decent championship fight this year, and only this year. Within the play-off format, the other teams are still fighting for points, in particular the Top 35, which are awarded qualifying spots for the first 5 races next season.
No longer are teams simply giving up in the second half of the season if the points leader was "x" amount of points ahead.
As to your other insight with respects to "robots" on the track, there are signs that the emotion within the sport is coming back, "let em at it", NASCAR's current policy in self policing is beginning to show interest by fans.
There are several challenges before NASCAR; the jellybean shape of the cars, which all look the same and length of the races. The Nationwide series has brought the new Mustang and Challenger to the series, but GM has resisted (flat out NO) implementing the Camaro body. Fans have reacted favorably the new body styles. There has been pressure to shorten the races which NASCAR has resisted.
Several changes are coming, but some later than others. Will these changes make a difference, I'm not so sure.
Fuel injection is coming which only complicates things, but not until 2012 or possibly 2013. What is coming is Gasoline - Ethanol fuel (5% or 10%) which will require more pit stops, something that NASCAR wants, hopefully under green flag racing conditions. A potential by-product is increased engine durability, possibly whereby the engine is capable of running two races prior to rebuilding, saving teams a pile of money.
Even with these changes, the single most important 'fix' that NASCAR needs is continued economic recovery, which will allow further changes and competition to increase. Current business conditions suggest that it's questionable if sponsors and fans will pack the stands in 2011.
One of the good things that NASCAR has done is listen to the race teams on how to improve the product. A decade ago that would have been impossible. Not everyone is happy with how NASCAR runs its races, but the general consensus is they like how NASCAR runs. When compared to Indy or F-1, it's no contest. Even the SCCA is brutal compared to NASCAR, likely a key reason its no longer the association it once was.
Jimmie Johnson won the championship fair and square this year. Both Hamlin and Harvick had opportunities to win it all at Homestead and both fell short. Even under the "old points system", had all three teams been separated by the same amount of points prior to the race starting and the teams finished where they did at the end of the race, Jimmy Johnson would have still won by the exact same amount of points, because the amount of points awarded has not changed since the 1990's.
This is where you are wrong look at the way the points system is and was and Jimmie didn't win 5 in a row. Kevin Harvick would have won the championship.
A sound way of points untill the chase races were they break it in to two races in one. it would be like another sport saying here is our new playoff format.
Baseball example: 1st, 2nd & 3rd place teams battle for win on the same field at the same time. Oh what the hell lets ad another 10 teams play on the field as well on the same day and time.
Do the guys out side of the chase get 10 extra points for each win awarded to them when the chase starts? No why not if the points are awarded the same?
Year Classic Points Champ
2004 Jeff Gordon (5) Kurt Busch (2)
2005 Tony Stewart (2) Tony Stewart
2006 Jimmie Johnson Jimmie Johnson (2)
2007 Jeff Gordon (6) Jimmie Johnson (3)
2008 Carl Edwards Jimmie Johnson (4)
2009 Jimmie Johnson (2) Jimmie Johnson (5)
2010 Kevin Harvick Jimmie Johnson(6)
Jimmie Johnson won the championship fair and square this year. Both Hamlin and Harvick had opportunities to win it all at Homestead and both fell short. Even under the "old points system", had all three teams been separated by the same amount of points prior to the race starting and the teams finished where they did at the end of the race, Jimmy Johnson would have still won by the exact same amount of points, because the amount of points awarded has not changed since the 1990's.
