The cost per race quoted by mid might run a back of the pack field filler team in Busch or Truck. A competitive team costs many times that number, more than the purses & points fund.
Bottom line is that in those series as well as the Canadian series you need big buck sponsorship to be competitive.
Midamerica has run back of the pack teams in many series but he can't the big buck sponsors because he isn't a proven winner.
The Teams with proven winning records seem to be doing OK in the Canadian Tire series.

Hill3... I said you could BUY a chassis from a top 10 team for $20,000.00 and I never said you could run in the top 10 for $35,000 per show, but you could field a car and in most cases make most the shows with a budget of $35,000 per event.
OldBill...You are 100% right when you say it takes a big sponsor to run up front, and yes you are right when you say we have not proven ourselves as winners as your case in point- we have never had that big time sponsor that floods us with money in order to win, although we have always made the shows regradless of the series were racing in, based on great equipment and determanation, and you can knock us all you want but at least we can say we have run on just about every Speedway that matters, have made every show except the Indy 500 because we crashed in quailfying, and done so against some of the biggest race teams in the industry, all without that big time sponsor or winning history.
I am not patting our back, but I will gaurentee thats allot more then most Canadian Race Teams have ever accomplished.

I cant understand how Arm chair racers always think they no more then real racers when it comes to real facts.
Numbers and facts are numbers and facts. You can look up anything you want on the internet today, including the facts I gave out. And as far as race teams not winning races and always running at the back there is always a 99% chance that it comes down to money and driver. Case in point, and I am not knocking the guy but admiring him for what they accomplished this year, Dave Jacombs had never won a CASCAR or NASCAR race and normally ran in the middle to back of the pack, but along comes Andrew Ranger and a pocket full of Walmart money.  In one season Jacombs Racing went from Zero to Hero !!

For race fans its always easy to point out Race Teams faults. You know why the car is not winning. You know why they cant find the big sponsor. Hell you even know when they should pit- take four tires- take two tires- fuel only.....
If racing was that easy, everyone would get off there couch and go racing and everyone could be a champion, but in the real world, real racers are a dying breed due to the pressure, the demands and the lack of money it takes to win.

Be race fans, but dont talk out of school before you do your homework.
Racing Class 101 starts now !!

mid go re-read reply 12 and 15,that is exactly what you said. your ideas on motorsports i have no argument with usually agree with you it was just the math thing that caught my eye,but i am beating a dead horse here so i will let it go. i will not knock another's program people will do what is right for them whether it be a business or a hobby. good luck with your endeavours next year in cts oss and irl, maybe you could find a sponsors to come west for either a ct race or a west race,if that every happens give me a heads up.