I think the best comparison would be the New Hampshire race back in 2000 where they ran restictor plates on a 1 mile . Do you remember that ? Let me give you the run down of that race ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ .Not a single pass for the lead in the intire race and may have been the worst NASCAR race I have ever seen .
Short of the Nemechek win in '99, find me ANY race at New Hampshire that wasn't boring...lol
I've heard all these arguments for the built engine before. If it's so bad to run one, why does the local Delaware engine builder complain because he would build these engine but it would cost him 15,000 to do it. Okay, so we all spend 15 grand and now the racing will be good? Why???
It's a ludicris amount of money to buy a competative engine. The only way to get ahead for sme people is to have more hp than the next guy. Is that what you advocating Pinecrest, I bet you like to watch the 24 hours of Daytona. It must tickle you think pink to see those Daytona prototypes blow by one of the GT or GT2 cars. I guess that's racing to you, what ever floats you boat.
I did say it was up to the track owners to give the racers a surface to run on. That along with a fair handicapping system and an agressive tech team will be the quickest way to increase car counts.
Having to spend 15,000 to 20,000 (conciderably more for LM)to have some builder hide horsepower in your engine is the reason we're at the state of car count we have now.
the iroc series was stated so that no one would start the ndp 300. the crates that our slms can run have over 400hp,but the important number is torque, you can have a open motor peak at 600 plus hp but big deal,they still have to get it to the ground. the engine is just parts of the equation, these single line races that you are talking about is it possible that it is a single track groove, did they not reconfigure NH after the 300 snoozefest.
The hardest argument I have to counter is Mobil1fans that New Hampshire is boring and since I cant really I will just say its far worst with a restictor plate.
Fromthestands if you have an engine builder that says he needs $ 15,000 to build a 300 hp small block engine thats reliable you need a new engine builder.
hill3 the IROC series was started to show case Porsche's in front of an American audience . I have not seen enough of the more powerful crates to judge yet but I dislike its weaker cousin .
Now I have to go see a man about some bolts ...later
ASA Late-Model and at Delaware used a crate engine that develop 400-425HP with 600cfm 4-barrels and about 375-385HP with Holley 4412 500cfm 2-barrels. This crate engine also allowed with OSS, WEST, some Pro-Stock sanctioning bodies like PASS or MPST.
LMS under ACT-Rules (Kawartha, Ottawa, LMS-ACT, LMS-Québec) used GM Crate Engine develop 350HP with Holley 4412 500cfm 2-barrels.
Since they used this GM Crate Engine, LMS dropped laps-time at pretty all racetracks they are.
An easiest way to control Crate engine, even some raceteams try to cheat the rules with "supposed "Sealed Bolt", just to go on Dyno to check engines... If one of them having different powerplant than all others... maybe to go under technical inspection... This is the ACT used and they never have mistake... All engine offered a different powerplant than all others were "illegal" after some unallowed parts were used into this engine...
Engine aren't the prob with the single file show... It's the drivers attitude...!!!