We all believe in the GCR John, but the scheduling the past few years has made us all shake our heads I think. Its really not rocket science to not schedule a big event on the same night every other track in Ontario is running. I am still puzzled by this years date, makes no sense at all in my mind.

To quote Snotrod.... In all seriousness, I do hope it's a good show and that EVERYONE leaves the event happy.

Even tho we all know that's not possible...

Thanks for chiming tho John, we appreciate hearing from the brass

Although I have enjoyed reading this thread and the ideas everyone has put forward, I find it extermely frustrating. The solution for todays LM fiasco presented itself a few years ago but a couple of track promoters, namely Flamboro and Delaware decided to balk at the idea. The ACT model has been proven for decades and the proof is in the car counts at any of their races, especially the specials. They have 98 cars listed on the 2013 driver page. ( Dont tell me some are on there that haven't raced this year because there are some that have that are not. ) Derek thought he had both tracks on board but that fell through, for reasons only those two promoters know. I have heard rumor in the past that each wanted to have the fastest LM in the province. Why??? Fans can't tell the difference in a few tenths. Kawartha adopted the rules package anyway and costs were kept down and half decent car counts followed. I know many of you will say that Flamboro and Delaware counts were at least as good but they have an advantage. Greater population to draw drivers and fans from and a much bigger economy from Toronto west. You can't argue that. They also had two tracks within 20 minutes of Kawartha to contend with. I don't think anyone here can argue that if costs were kept in check, as they have always been by Curley, that the LMs at Delaware and Flamboro would have strong counts. And if each track has the same, cost saving rules, there would be 50 or 60 LMs between the tracks to draw a great field of cars for the specials.
If all three had adopted ACT rules back then the LLM class probably would never have needed to happen. I am sure Sunset and Sauble, and possibly Varney and Barrie may have adopted them as well. I can gaurantee you that the cost of running a competitive ACT LM is much less than the cost of a top running LLM at Sunset. The costs for a driveline alone that I have heard for some of those guys is crazy, not to mention the tens of thousands for a competitive chassis.
By now you can sense my frustration. It's been the same solution every fan in Ontario has had for years but none of the promoters can seem to realize it. In my younger years I would never, EVER, miss a LM invitational anywhere. This year I have been to a grand total of 1 LM race. The WoO LM race at Brighton. Yes DIRT, They get it.
Is it too late for the LM asphalt crowd to turn things around? Unfortunately I think so. Costs have continued to skyrocket and promotors continue to make bad decisions regarding rules and race dates. Unless drivers, promoters and sponsors are willing to bite the bullet and adopt a common, cost effective rules package for all of Ontario racing, nothing will change. And I can't see that happening.
Imagine, Kawartha, Peterborough, Sunset, Sauble, Varney, Delaware, Flamboro, Barrie and Capitol City all running under the ACT rules package or one similiar to it that keeps costs reasonable and allows the lesser teams to compete with the big boys. If each track had 15 registered drivers that would be close to 150 cars and 15 per track is being conservative for some. Oh, what specials we would have.

too bad it will never happen

Well said Slap.

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Actually 106 cars have raced an ACT event this year. 27 from QC and 5 from ON. And most of these drivers and teams have been part of this series for years. Tom must be doing something right. Its just a shame that many of the ACT cars that can no longer run at Kawartha must change their cars to run with the LLM, run against far superior cars at Delaware or Flamboro ( which none have done ), travel to the states and Quebec ( which a couple have done ) or just park them ( which many have done ). If Ontario adopted ACT rules when the window was open our list could be even larger than this one.

I can gaurantee you that the cost of running a competitive ACT LM is much less than the cost of a top running LLM at Sunset. The costs for a driveline alone that I have heard for some of those guys is crazy, not to mention the tens of thousands for a competitive chassis.

How can the costs be so different?