I was really hoping that ACT would be the universal lm rules for the province but other than Kawartha (and Capital City?), no one wanted to jump on the bandwagon. And then Kawartha had to come up with a rule book the size of the bible to draw in cars for the weekly shows.
I saw two really excellent ACT tour races at Kawartha over the years-one opposite the sprint car nationals at Ohsweken (and thank gawd for that heated grandstand) and another which was run on, I think, a Saturday afternoon, which featured some incredible battles between Brad Leighton and Laperle but played in front of about 500 folks. I'm pretty sure that there were no llm's mixed into the field and the timing was all wrong. Got to see my hero Robbie Crouch (now a successful realtor in Burlington Vt.) one last time.
Right now a lot of promoters subscribe to the island mentality as they don't like the idea of their cars running elsewhere (for fear of teams withholding their labours wanting a better purse, etc.). I hope some kind of meeting is held over the winter between all the promoters. Maybe we can get them to go to rehab to get away from their reliance on tire suppliers for point funds

Jay, I agree it is not helping the problem placing blame. Reading my post it does seem that way but I was rather trying to show the success that ACT has had and that it still is the best answer that is out there now. Present day LM and LLM rules are far from cost effective. Curleys rules package is and that, coupled with the fact that it is a proven formula, is why I still feel that it is the most viable option. How we can get there is another story. I do feel that the only way to get there is to get the drivers from all of the tracks to call a meeting and invite the track owners ( all of them, not a choice few ), not the other way around. You dictate what goes on, not the promoters. Because honestly, you provide his show and without you guys he has nothing. You will need to have some leadership, a focused plan, show the promoters a way to impliment that plan and show them the positives that it will bring to each speedway. To be honest, the drivers will be the ones that will absorb the majority, if not all of the costs, but I know certain owners are stuck in their island mentality.Also, everyone talks about a five year plan in business. You would know better than I, but would it be possible to impliment this 5 year plan getting to ACT rules. Every year chip away at a couple of things. Depending on the class and the track either take some things away or give them to the drivers. It seems to be simple but I am sure to get all to agree and get it to happen would not be so simple. Wish it was but until something happens similar to this, the LM scene in Ontario will continue to deteriorate.

I think part of the issue there is that we're in year 1 of what they've been telling everyone is a 3 year rules freeze.

I don't doubt for a moment that the LM ranks at Delly will swell again somewhat. They aren't doing too badly right now. There's simply a void left behind by the guys who didn't come back because their engines aren't legal any more. Unfortunately, most of those guys were our shining stars.

I'm sure that looking at the ACT rule set wouldn't be a bad thing. ACT is well established and has been around a long time. We could do a lot worse. Anything is possible down the road.

However right now, as much as we don't want to admit it, their (management's) focus is on generating income now. I would imagine that making things so that we can have huge LM fields again, for once or twice a year events, is pretty low on the list of priorities at the moment.

It sucks...don't get me wrong. I live for the days we can once again see 20 guys in the non-qualifiers race, and a 32 car feature field. But they need to be making money on a good solid regular show before they start worrying about that.

Another transition period is not what they need right now, IMO.

I here what you are saying shadow as far as some tracks like Delly don't need a transition period right now.

But remember cost savings for racers and rule parody would not only increase the counts for specials but allso for the refular Friday nights.

Just spitballing ideas here...for the sake of argument. What is keeping our cars from being ACT legal anyway?

Could it be done or would everyone have to rebuild what they have?

Again...just for the sake of argument  😉