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I love em. I won't say they're perfect, but I love them.

And frankly, I've seen enough smiles in the grandstands when they're running that it makes them worth keeping. Just watching 4 of them try and navigate a 360 degree barrel turn at the same time is ripping good fun in and of itself, and it would be sad to see them go.

Is the program perfect? No. In fact I believe the class suffers a bit of an identity crisis. It seems to try and be more than it really is, and no one seems to know what they're really all about or what their purpose is.

There's 2 main problems with the Chaos Cars, and a 3rd smaller one.

I believe that giving the thing a title sponsor and having a points series was a mistake. The whole point of the division was to introduce something lighthearted into the program, much in the same vein as the train races were years ago. To that goal, it succeeded pretty well. But when you start talking about points and title sponsors, it makes it sound pretentious. Personally, my solution would be to scrap the points, and invest in a belt...much like a Pro Wrestling Champ would wear. You win the race, you're the champ, until the next guy wins one. Sure, its cheese...but what exactly is this supposed to be anyway? Winston Cup?

The other one I've already touched on before, and that is barrier of entry. I might know nothin about nothin, but I knew car count would be a problem as soon as I heard that the cars were going to need cages. That's a lot of work and expense for what the class really is. Of course guys are going to be mad when they've put the time and money into the car just to have it bounced around like a pinball...except its in a division where you're pretty much SUPPOSED to get bounced around like a pinball. Its a catch 22.

Now, the track HAS had demolition derbies in the recent past, and likewise it also hosts King of the Hill events with regular street cars, not to mention jumping cars through campers - so there has to be some precedent for "non-roll cage" stuff. There has to be. And if the format for the Chaos cars will not fly with the insurance companies unless they have roll cages, then its time to reconsider the format. Maybe it should just be a figure 8 race on the frontstretch only, just like they do at the fair.

And i think it IS time to reconsider the format somewhat. (that's the third one) Last Chaos race that I saw had about 8-9 cars and it was an absolute hoot. But we need to consider, where are those 8 guys now and why aren't they here? If its cost, then bring the cost down. If its not fun, then make it more fun.

And as far as entertainment value for the folks in the stands, take a good look at each race. Analyze what made the crowd react, and what didn't make the crowd react. Then eliminate the stuff that didn't, and figure out a way to add more of the stuff that did. Stuff that works: Cars with names/themes, Barrell turns, lots of zigzagging, and spinning each other out. Stuff that doesn't work: Stop boxes. (there's other ways to equalize...like having a blocker car.)

Stock car racing, at its best, is a combination of sport and show business. And this Chaos racing HAS to be pure show business, and needs to be thought of as that and only that. We have 4 other divisions to provide the legit sport end of it.

I know the format can work and really hope it does. I find the Snot-rod and the Baron and all those guys a real breath of fresh air. And as much as I love my buddy Snot-rod, I've no desire to see him racing all by himself. And I want the Chaos cars to be something that fans bring their kids to see.


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there is a million different ways to make chaos cars better i will agree to that..but i am in the stands when they race and have looked around and have not seen all these smiles u refer to!!!! there barrel turns are one of the least enjoyable parts of the race...slow and uncowardenated is not fun to watch..also exactly when was this race with 8 or 9 cars? some how i missed that!!! the figure 8 is a good idea. i agree cages and all that are completly unnessassary for this event aswell, would have alot more cars if they were as easy to build as a derby car.....delaware needs to look at a 4 cylinder class derby and realize those cars go threw way more crap and much harder hits then any chaos car ever has, this would be a great way to increase car counts for sure.
you could not be more right when u say the points need to be thrown out the window.
there is no real competition, and no one cares who the points leader is.
i apoligize if this seems to critical but i am at evey enduro race and i have friends that will not come becuz they have to now sit threw the chaos cars, was not so bad when u could just come late and miss them, and dont kid urself this was done by many ppl.
make it more entertaining soon or give it the boot!


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Well track side the drivers and the crews seem to enjoy the Kaos cars. The do provide some entertainment value and I beleive the fans enjoy them as well. And remember when you have a "last show" some fans will go home anyway just to beat the mad rush out of the gates. I've seen this during Late Modle features!!!
Points are nescessary for the guys in the division, it gives them incentive. Some across the board payout would good as well.
Change the time so the younger kids are alert and able to enjoy the show, thats what the parents want occupied kids! Lets run the kaos between heats and features! this gives the the other divisions more prep time and people time to buy more hotdogs if they don't like the Kaos stuff. I dunno it sells itself. Just my thoughts on the matter


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Change the time so the younger kids are alert and able to enjoy the show, thats what the parents want occupied kids! Lets run the kaos between heats and features! this gives the the other divisions more prep time and people time to buy more hotdogs if they don't like the Kaos stuff.

This too. Big Time. At least if they're on on Friday night anyway.

Of course, doing these guys before the features leaves us with crap-dropped-on-the-speedway issues too - which is probably why they run mainly with the enduros.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

As far as when was this 8-9 car race, it was last year getting toward labor day. there was the Baron and Snotrod, as well as Kramer, Fred, One Eyed Purple something or other, one that looked like a cop car, one bright orange one, Kazakstan Crunch...there was a bunch of em. And the crowd was into that one too.

Sorry lovemesomeracing, there's always going to be a contingent of fans that don't like this stuff, but there's lots that do. Like any other form of racing, sometimes its a great race and sometimes its a bit of a snoozer. Friday was the latter for sure, no argument there. Going the whole track didn't help, but they needed pit road this time to set up the ramp jump. Chalk it up as an experimant.

But to write the program off as of now is just a little hasty. It is still a work in progress.

As an aside: Frankly, I commend the guys that have been showing up. Guys like Snot-rod and Baron etc have added a little bit of a family vibe to the show, and some extra color to the culture of the speedway. They've definitely gone a little ways towards changing the formerly very stuffy serious-racin-only here nature of the place.


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Entry level racing? Are you serious? I agree Delaware doesnt have alot to offer other than the juniors as far as entry level goes but to call these things that is a stretch IMO.
Yes I think some of us would change our tune if we got the opportunity to drive one. I'm sure there fun to wheel around but entertaining to the fans is another question. Snotrod build or buy an Enduro I'm certain you will be more satisfied at the end of the day. Where did these other four or five cars go and why arent they coming out to play?


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