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(@racer25)
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IV ran a 5.29 for two full seasons. I've been cheating every night for two years then?


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(@streetstocker33)
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IV ran a 5.29 for two full seasons. I've been cheating every night for two years then?

yup.....if you arent rattling a 6000 chip and run decent lap times..or you had a good chip....i think the last poster missed the point on the gear rule, its not for the $10,000 motors, its for the cheated boxes that are hard to catch, ratio check is easy


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You're both right and wrong. Ratio rules are good. But there are many other factors to consider. The roll center of the cat, driver feel, where the car runs best. Etc. Look at some super stocks. Some rattle the chip near the s/f line where as others don't at all. Their lap times are equal.

The same is in the trucks. Obviously your past tendencies on here, Jamie, are to stir the pot. And you've done it again. I don't think many truck teams were cheating in their motor programs or in their boxes. Tech did a good job from what I saw at keeping that under control. even sending a chip back to mccolls and msd to double check their find.

However, I do look forward to your first tech inspection, that is, if you ever manage a top 5 in a field larger than 6 cars.


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You're both right and wrong. Ratio rules are good. But there are many other factors to consider. The roll center of the cat, driver feel, where the car runs best. Etc. Look at some super stocks. Some rattle the chip near the s/f line where as others don't at all. Their lap times are equal.

The same is in the trucks. Obviously your past tendencies on here, Jamie, are to stir the pot. And you've done it again. I don't think many truck teams were cheating in their motor programs or in their boxes. Tech did a good job from what I saw at keeping that under control. even sending a chip back to mccolls and msd to double check their find.

However, I do look forward to your first tech inspection, that is, if you ever manage a top 5 in a field larger than 6 cars.

i never said anything about cheating in their motor programs......there was a lot going on with msd boxes last year, and there were trucks hammering the limiter with 5.14 gears..........i'll have NO problem in tech next year with my car, not worried about it at all.....ive never been accused of or caught with anything illegal to do with msd boxes or motors......not here to stir the pot......guys are bitching about a gear rule which is pretty minor, and will make tech wwwayyy less complicated and remove any question regarding rev limiters.


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(@tigeraid)
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I wasn't cheating on the chip either, hit it rather early when I finally got my setup figured out well enough to go that deep.  Running a Powerglide in 1st gear gave me a much different gearing arrangement than most other trucks.

So to change to the gearing required now by the rules, I need to change not only my rear end gears but also my transmission--or, build the trans to run in direct drive 1:1 and somehow find a 5.14 gear for an 8.5" 10 bolt.  Either way, tons of money spent.

AND I gotta yank my cam, it's now illegal.  So I gotta spend several hundred bucks on a new cam, lifters and timing set.

AND yes, the tires and wheels.

AND a couple new chunks of exhaust.  Not expensive of course, but it all adds up.

Anyway, if that's what they need to do to catch the cheaters, so be it.  But it's gonna scare away more of the little guys.  I could've sworn rev limiters were there to do ALL of this for us.  Hell it'd be easier/cheaper if we just got spec rev limit boxes from the track, sealed and all, handed out every night.  If you've got a gear rule now, why bother with rev limiters at all?


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