boo hoo.... sounds to me like that guy is in the wrong sport. As Shrader used to say, if you buckle in your 50% responsible for what happens on the track. If you think your going to make it through your racing carreer without getting takin out by some bonehead who makes a mistake. Your sadly mistaken!!

Go to that extreme and you have a non-contact class where you send anyone to the back who even touches anyone. Makes a good class for rookies to learn, but it is less exciting for the fans. It quickly shuts down a menace that thinks they are Earnhardt, but I wouldn’t want to see LM run that way. Mosport 6-or-less ran under those rules, it served its purpose there.

You are going to trade paint threading the needle 3-wide. You are going to tap a bumper trying to force a nose in. There is going to be a time 2 guys try for the same spot of track. That’s rubbing, and that’s racing. It’s not an excuse for a demo derby like some may use it.

Sometimes the guy who got his equipment destroyed was a car running above their ability, blocking 3 lanes and creating a log jam. When they get moved, and end up hitting the wall rather than collecting it outside the groove could be a reflection of their driving ability, rather than the degree of contact. It wouldn’t be fair to park a top running car for wrecking equipment in a situation like that.

True enough, and I think anyone who knows racing at all will understand that there's a line. Racing is a contact sport and everyone knows that. I'm not advocating racing as a non-contact thing. And if you block a guy lap after lap, you should expect that person to figure out a way to move you. Fair is fair, and blocking is not kosher.

So to go back to that inane quote for a second...."rubbin is racin" (say it with a rednecky accent for maximum effect) But spinning a guy on purpose or knocking a guy into a fence on purpose isn't rubbing. Stuff happens, as Racer43 pointed out (and I know eactly the incident he's referring to) , but officials, if they have any sort of clue, can usually tell the difference.

i have been taken out of a race recently by a lapped car ,should i have wrecked him at the time i wanted to kick his ass but seeing my kids with i thought the better of it ,so after the race and into the next week when he came into the shop and still didnt own up to his mistake should i do it or not thats the question. in the end i did not stuff him or touch him for that fact

I think XXXXXX should be banned from racing there !

I don`t think there should be any suspensions or `` bannings``because  that just means there`s one less driver, 2 or more team members, possibly family support that are not at the track which for a track management mean less pit admission, less food revenue. They should be fined heavily

As for payback  I think that it means you have no respect for your equipment, the other persons equipment

If you have been bullied as a kid everyday for 2 years at school and the only way to stop it is to beat the *** out of the bully would you do it?

One time this year I was the BONEHEAD. I made a mistake and took me and another guy bigtime into the wall. As soon as I parked my car I went over to apologize. Sure he was pretty hot but he was a gentleman about it and we got it sorted out. I still feel bad about it. OH well, that's racing. I made a mistake and we both paid.
I have also been hit many times in competition by cars either being driven beyond limits or simply jockeying for position in very close quarters. Most of the time you take it as it comes and carry on. You get kind of a 6th sense of what was intentional and what was not.
BUT SOMETIMES there are guys that try to intimidate others by bashing and crashing and other threatening means. You cannot let these bullies think they have gotten the better of you.
Whether its a fender for a fender or a screaming match in the pits, you gotta go right back at these clowns. You don't have to do anything stupid, you just have to let them know in no uncertain terms that you won't take their crap.