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We need women   in racing so we can maximize the markets we can advertise too.   not just driving,  but just beiing involved.  jw

I did not know women did not watch the sports or buy the products advertised by all the sports i listed .

Please Jason that was weak even for you .


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Agreed.  We need more women in racing. 

  Remind me why we need more women in racing and what they add to the sport ?

Are Hockey, baseball, football, Mens Olympic sailing, target shooting, ski jumping etc etc etc missing this magical quantity that only women can bring as well ?

other than an oldtimer way of thinking why not enlighten us to why women should not be in racing with men, does this also include other groups as well.just a little too redneck for me. your other sports examples mainly depend on physical stature, while it does play a part in racing its not the most important part,that would be the mind. are you saying women are not smart enough to race against men.

 Replying to a question with a question will seldom draw the responce from me you are looking for .  I was not aware that Muggsy Bogues was bigger or stronger then most women nor did i realize it took great strength to be a target shooter or to skipper a sail boat .


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muggsy_Bogues

nice side step. once again why do women not belong in racing with men? are you related to dion?


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This topic is strictly opinions and i think i have made mine clear . In the last decade women in NASCAR have been a fiasco on a scale few could imagine .

Erin Crocker , I don't think much needs to be said here since everyone already knows the story . Who would have thought a successful 50 year old Ray Evernham would lose 75 % of his team ownership , his marriage of 19 years , his family and respect from most people for a fling with this 25 year old employee. I doubt Crocker knew she would become a sponsorship leper that she has ending her career .

This interview from TruckSeries,com still freaks me out ...

"I knew we were going to make some changes, and I had an opportunity to talk with Ray at Talladega and then that Monday we went to lunch and talked about it. It wasn't like he said this is what we are doing, we talked about it, and it was a nice father-daughter chat." Quote Erin Crocker

Rays interview with ESPNs  Mark Ashenfelter was just as creepy ....

"We always kid around that she's the daughter I never had "Quote Ray Evernham

  Just a few months later they became a couple .

Then we have Debbie Renshaw , i wont go into the disaster she had at Fairgrounds Speedway , but what happened at Charlotte was a tragedy . Please don't start with the "it was the spotters fault' or lack of . I know all the specifics of this case and have heard Ken Schraders personal thoughts on this since he was right there when it happened .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ykMNm13SI

Next there was Kim Crosby who in my opinion was the worst driver i have ever seen obtain a NASCAR licence . Crosby was later caught for embellishing her bio listing several races that she had never competed in as well as the fact that she had never finshed any race in other then last position . Crosby's only other claim to fame was being the last driver ever caught with a home made (cheater ) restrictor plate . Some how the fact she was sponsored by Butt Paste seems appropriate.

  Cheating on and off the track , lying and even killing has not been limited to the female drivers . There have only been two real female owners in NASCAR during the last decade Beth Ann Morgenthau and Angela Harkness all the others are wives of drivers using their names for tax reasons .

  The Angela Harkness story is one of the most interesting in NASCAR history and i believe she will go down as the worst NASCAR owner in history

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/performance_files_tested_by_c_d/sport_angela_does_nascar_specialty_file

Women have made up a fraction of 1 % of the drivers in NASCAR and even less then that as owners in the last decade but you say you haven't seen enough yet ?


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and ginn was not? you are right this is about opinions and you have every right to yours as sexiest, outdated and wrong as they are. it really takes strength away from you other post.


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and ginn was not?

hill3 as much as i want to take you seriously you do make it very difficult .You really want to compare Ginn with a convicted felon that may have ties to a murder ? If you want to compare Ginn to JD Stacy i would say you have a point but your way off side here .

  Until you post something a little better thought out you are in violation of the PCoC  (Pinecrest Code of Conduct) and i will not respond to anything you post . You have a 3 day suspension so use the time wisely to contemplate something worthy of my time .

 


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