You are right on the money!!!
If there were more than 24 cars in each class like it used to be then things would be different. Gone are the days of being honest and playing by the rules. If ALL the cars that didn't meet the rules were forced to then it may take some of the expense out of it and get more guys back racing.

So you play by the rules or cheat with the cheaters...........

The car counts are low because of all the guys that are pissed of they don't have, or are not so stupid as to spend the money to catch the non-legal / golden boy. Do they really expect the rest, who have enough self respect not the cheat and don't want to spend their last cent on every cheater part, to actually continue to waste their time and money showing up? Seems they do, which is how much they don't get it.

OR you could work hard, use your brain, invest a little money and ALOT of time...... And win races.

I dont know (care) about the politics in 4 cyl, i know just by listening to the engines 50% are illegal, but that was why they started throwing lead at them. Then some genius decided to let 200 dollar a piece tires run. Advantage goes to the wallet.

The thunder car RULES have gotten out of hand, not "cheating". You cant take an older car (Unless it is the 12 or 10) and run competitivley in that class nowadays. And their cars are fast because Jim and Gord spend ALL week and EVERY practice working on them, not because they have mega dollar parts and NASA engineering. When was the last time any of the other guys swapped all 4 springs, shocks and sway bars, ride height and front end settings from week to week??
You see guys run 40 laps of practice without resetting the tire pressures, touching a wedge bolt or working on stagger, whos to blame for poor performance??
The last night of racing for the 2nd heat we changed a rear spring, toe out, left upper, wedge and tire pressures on the 12, it gained us 2 tenths, which part of that is mega buck or cheating?

As far as late models go, the 57, 69, and 8 are older cars, and they won the majority or the features this year, at least one has a stock clip!
They may have nice shocks, but shocks dont win races, setup and drivers do. I'll bet those guys work all week on their stuff, and experiment with setups during practice.

If you want to label people cheaters because they are successful in their class, go ahead. I'm sure some of them do, but what you have to worry about is if you're cheating and still getting your doors blown off, what are you doing wrong?

Couldn't agree more Rob

I was not trying to start a debate.
I don't want to put the time & effort into something, just to have to redo it.
I will contact the track today.
Thanks folks

#1 who are you referring to as "the golden boy"
#2 never raced flammy before, went with the wrong gear, green driver and blew the release bearing pulling off the trailer. was running 5th until some meatstick pile drove me with two laps to go!
#3 if you are saying that i'm cheating, feel free to come and crawl under my car at anytime!!! if you have to cheat at barrie to win, then you're nothing but a turd!

if anyone wants the same crazy horsepower that i have and it's totally legal with room for more, call hosking race engines and i'm sure he'd be glad to hook you up. if anyone wants to get ahold of me, i'm at the shop 7 days a week all YEAR long, drop in and say hi!