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Who Killed the Sunset Four Funs???????????

Guest · 2008-08-19T18:54:01Z

Now that I have been thinking about this all day since the new rule changes with all of 5 or 6 nights to go has killed the division. I wanted to see where the blame laid for the death of this division and i came to the conclusion theres plenty of blame to go around.Lets start with the DRIVERS, now this has to be the most diverse group of people ever to get behind the wheel of a stock car(and no I don't care if these cars fit your definition of stock car). Now the new ownership group hasn't exactly shown these driver any amount of respect and these drivers have continually misplace there anger towards this. They started from about night 2 of the new ownership when the second round of heats were dropped and a consi was picked up starting only 24 cars in the A-Main. This then lead to the slower drivers to start filing complaints about how they deserve a last place payout or tow money. They then ended up getting what they wanted and on most nights even receive a "little feature" for those who do not qualify to the A-Main. But there complaining has not stopped there, the issue then arose that they did not get enough public viewing and they no longer wanted to be the last feature. Now there was a reason they were the last feature, the former ownership group realized how many cautions these inexperienced drivers could create and how long they can make a night. And once again the drivers yelled and they received. But as it was last time they still were not happy. So the person who was doing his best to help him became there next victim(yes thats right I'm the victim) the Tech Guy, some cars were going to fast and the slow cars and drivers could not keep up(in slow drivers view the fast guys were cheating). Now I teched a probably about 10 cars or so and measured springs checked tire sizes and rating, the muffler depending on the car, and even looked for hidden ballast weight. And came up with nothing. No one go DQ'd and that did not sit well with these drivers who do not win, so what happens, they race backwards and what happens people who should have never won a race end up winning and it was just wrong in my view and many others because thats not racing that a circus. So it all comes to a head when some certain 2 faced drivers(and they know who they are) whined to the new owner at the first drivers meeting he attends that I'm not doing my job and etc etc etc so in turn the owner insults me to all the drivers and I quit. Fred takes over Four Fun tech and the complaining goes away for a short period. They get what they want again and end up racing the correct way and the same winners end up in victory lane and the complaining comes back so what happens, the rules change and no camber and no different rim sizes and the complaining goes away. But the same winners and driver continue to finish in the top 5. Now thats just there off track issues. There on track issues were clearly visible Saturday night, disregard for your fellow drivers safety so that explains itself.Also with the majority of injuries over the last few years and dramatics of some of the drivers, now I'm not down playing any of the accident this year, but there have been certain drivers that pull dramatics after accidents and now make people think these accidents and injuries are not serious(anyone remember September of 2007 pm me if you want the story).So now that the drivers have done there part it is now onto the FLAGGING STAFF.Now every year in this division except this year the ZERO contact rule has been in effect, we have seen drivers intentionally flip other drivers and just flat out wreck each other. And for all of these accident the black flag has been used the issues are solved. Rob would come down to the drivers meeting and tell us that intentional contact would result in a black flag and the contact goes away and accidents stop. How many times last year and in 2006 did this division race flag to flag. This year I have personally not seen the black flag thrown and its resulted in some serious accidents. So pretty much all of Saturdays accident, all of which broke the camels back could have been prevented if the black flag had been used this year these drivers would have feared contact with each other and these accidents would not have taken place. I understand Rob no longer flags the 4 cylinder divisions but something needed to be done and it never was. Next up is Tech StaffNow I told you my track record as Tech Man and the record in the post Rainman time. Now there were 3 Dqs in 2007 if I remember correctly, I was nailed once(heater core) as well as Terry Woodly(snow tires) and Bill Campbell(H rated tires on the borrowed track VW Jetta). Now Fred`s view of the rules was the same as many, as long as it was with in stock adjustment it was good, its a beginner and a learning division and without allowing drivers to adjust there cars how are they suppose to learn. So in my view the Tech Staff did nothing ...

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Donb

Aug 21, 2008 10:24 pm

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Rob will be happy and know what he is to do there !! Good Luck Rob, you have been a good friend. We "ALL" will miss you greatly.

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SpencerLewis

Aug 21, 2008 10:39 pm

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Rob will be happy and know what he is to do there !!

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JT_Racing

Aug 21, 2008 10:47 pm

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What Spencer you can't speak Donanese?

BTW my post was meant as humour. I really can't imagine not having Rob as our starter. I really do have a lot of respect for him! I am sure our country needs him but Sunset needs him more.

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Doherty

Aug 21, 2008 11:38 pm

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Im posting this on behalf of John Pender, he asked me to post these thoughts he had emailed me, he does not use the site but wanted to share his thoughts with people at his home track.

FAIR FUN

I for one would like to see the 4 fun class continue but not in it's current format. My name is John my son Marshall drives the #9 car, and i believe we are considered one of the "FAST 5."
for me it's "FUN" too see my car "EARN" it's way to the front and be one of the " FAST 5." What is "NOT FUN" what is not fun for me is to see my car or any of the " FAST 5" start on the
front row of a heat race or any other race. I did not like it to years ago when we where not a "FAST 5 CAR" and I don't like it now. It's not "FUN" for anyone.

FEATURES ONLY

Let's say we have 38 "FUN CARS"... The top 19 in points will be the A- MAIN. Those 20th to 38th the B- MAIN.
Starting positions will be determined by your point standing, if you are 1st in point's you will start 19th in the A- MAIN.
If you are 38th in point's you will start 1st in the B- MAIN.
As of now we are running a 20 lap feature... why not run 2 A- MAIN'S AND 2 B- MAINS OF 15 LAPS EACH?
The finishing order of the 1st feature will be reversed for the 2nd feature with two exceptions.
The winner of the first B- MAIN will now sit on the pole of the second A- MAIN.
The last place car in the first A- MAIN will now start 9th of the 19 car's in the B- MAIN.

STROKERS

The top 3 cars in each race will report to tech and all 4 fun driver's will also be required to report to tech if they feel anyone was laying back and trying to improve their position for the second feature.
Any driver found guility of "STROKIN" will be stripped of their point's and money for that race and disqualified from their second feature.

MONEY

If your here to make money in the 4 fun I gotta tell ya it ain't gonna happin!!!
As of now it's $ 50.00 to win the feature and the payout's dwindle from there.
How about $25.00 for a feature win and $10.00 for every other position.
Remember we are now running 4 feature's and we have to make this fair for the track owner.
Let's say you win both of your features... there's your $50.00.
If you win a feature and run 2nd in the next race you got $35.00.
If you run both race's you got your $20.00.
now i know it might seem like a pay cut but think of it this way.
you decide to go to a movie none is going to give you the gas money to get there and the theatre is certanly not going to give you back your admission fee.

THANK'S for your time and let's all make this "FUN"

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Deb

Aug 23, 2008 12:56 am

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The larger problem people seem to not see here is that the lack of driver respect and subsequent lack of black flags on the track has caused these wrecks, not the "safety" of the cars. If drivers are allowed to bash each other and not suffer consequences, then the wrecks happen.

Okay Mark I'm reading this again and it still sounds the same to me. Yes you mention lack of driver respect and lack of black flags has "caused these wrecks". If drivers are allowed (I take it this means the starters are allowing it) to bash each other and "not suffer consequences" (another assumption but I would think lack of black flags), then the wrecks happen.

I don't mind being corrected but I still see the majority of the blame being throw at the starters here!!

Nothing against you personally Mark but you're not even there to make the judgement call in the first place.

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