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Who Killed the Sunset Four Funs???????????

Guest · 2008-08-19T18:54:01Z

Now that I have been thinking about this all day since the new rule changes with all of 5 or 6 nights to go has killed the division. I wanted to see where the blame laid for the death of this division and i came to the conclusion theres plenty of blame to go around.Lets start with the DRIVERS, now this has to be the most diverse group of people ever to get behind the wheel of a stock car(and no I don't care if these cars fit your definition of stock car). Now the new ownership group hasn't exactly shown these driver any amount of respect and these drivers have continually misplace there anger towards this. They started from about night 2 of the new ownership when the second round of heats were dropped and a consi was picked up starting only 24 cars in the A-Main. This then lead to the slower drivers to start filing complaints about how they deserve a last place payout or tow money. They then ended up getting what they wanted and on most nights even receive a "little feature" for those who do not qualify to the A-Main. But there complaining has not stopped there, the issue then arose that they did not get enough public viewing and they no longer wanted to be the last feature. Now there was a reason they were the last feature, the former ownership group realized how many cautions these inexperienced drivers could create and how long they can make a night. And once again the drivers yelled and they received. But as it was last time they still were not happy. So the person who was doing his best to help him became there next victim(yes thats right I'm the victim) the Tech Guy, some cars were going to fast and the slow cars and drivers could not keep up(in slow drivers view the fast guys were cheating). Now I teched a probably about 10 cars or so and measured springs checked tire sizes and rating, the muffler depending on the car, and even looked for hidden ballast weight. And came up with nothing. No one go DQ'd and that did not sit well with these drivers who do not win, so what happens, they race backwards and what happens people who should have never won a race end up winning and it was just wrong in my view and many others because thats not racing that a circus. So it all comes to a head when some certain 2 faced drivers(and they know who they are) whined to the new owner at the first drivers meeting he attends that I'm not doing my job and etc etc etc so in turn the owner insults me to all the drivers and I quit. Fred takes over Four Fun tech and the complaining goes away for a short period. They get what they want again and end up racing the correct way and the same winners end up in victory lane and the complaining comes back so what happens, the rules change and no camber and no different rim sizes and the complaining goes away. But the same winners and driver continue to finish in the top 5. Now thats just there off track issues. There on track issues were clearly visible Saturday night, disregard for your fellow drivers safety so that explains itself.Also with the majority of injuries over the last few years and dramatics of some of the drivers, now I'm not down playing any of the accident this year, but there have been certain drivers that pull dramatics after accidents and now make people think these accidents and injuries are not serious(anyone remember September of 2007 pm me if you want the story).So now that the drivers have done there part it is now onto the FLAGGING STAFF.Now every year in this division except this year the ZERO contact rule has been in effect, we have seen drivers intentionally flip other drivers and just flat out wreck each other. And for all of these accident the black flag has been used the issues are solved. Rob would come down to the drivers meeting and tell us that intentional contact would result in a black flag and the contact goes away and accidents stop. How many times last year and in 2006 did this division race flag to flag. This year I have personally not seen the black flag thrown and its resulted in some serious accidents. So pretty much all of Saturdays accident, all of which broke the camels back could have been prevented if the black flag had been used this year these drivers would have feared contact with each other and these accidents would not have taken place. I understand Rob no longer flags the 4 cylinder divisions but something needed to be done and it never was. Next up is Tech StaffNow I told you my track record as Tech Man and the record in the post Rainman time. Now there were 3 Dqs in 2007 if I remember correctly, I was nailed once(heater core) as well as Terry Woodly(snow tires) and Bill Campbell(H rated tires on the borrowed track VW Jetta). Now Fred`s view of the rules was the same as many, as long as it was with in stock adjustment it was good, its a beginner and a learning division and without allowing drivers to adjust there cars how are they suppose to learn. So in my view the Tech Staff did nothing ...

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Thayne

Aug 25, 2008 4:44 pm

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Everyone is frustrated.. its how they respond that matters. 2 examples

JT-Racing - He's frustrated, but as you will see in his post, he's offering solutions, and suggestions on how to fix/improve things.

Mark - 100% negative. taking shots at a lady doing the scoreing, without making a sugestion on how to improve it, when he dosn't even run a car at the track.

There are people on here with an agenda. An agenda to get revenge. Mark is one of those people. Clearly he has worked for the track... And clearly he was asked not to work at the track. Clearly he had his feelings hurt, and wants to take it out negatively on the track.

JT-Racing, becareful who you side with... You can get a wolf in sheep's cloths sometimes...

This is pitiful...i am staying out of this as best I can, but from just reading this..Ross, seriously dude, you need to chill and quit with posting the same Come on Thayne you know better think every post...you are obviously trying to drive up your post count...this is not the proper way to get respect on here.

MArk is nothing but a standup guy with anything but a grudge...he is a sunset fan, or was...I have talked to many racers off of here and they are of the same opinion and many have a much stronger opinion....

just go work on ur car, seeing as it is REALLLY tough to run two tracks so u must have work to do on it...I will nt reply, I am done with u....Evan, do we have an ignore feature on thsi forum? It would be handy!

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rossevans30

Aug 25, 2008 5:48 pm

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Everyone is frustrated.. its how they respond that matters. 2 examples

JT-Racing - He's frustrated, but as you will see in his post, he's offering solutions, and suggestions on how to fix/improve things.

Mark - 100% negative. taking shots at a lady doing the scoreing, without making a sugestion on how to improve it, when he dosn't even run a car at the track.

There are people on here with an agenda. An agenda to get revenge. Mark is one of those people. Clearly he has worked for the track... And clearly he was asked not to work at the track. Clearly he had his feelings hurt, and wants to take it out negatively on the track.

Well Ross, on the positive side this post proves what many have suspected......that you have no idea what you are talking about. "Clearly Mark was asked not to work at the track".....You could not be further off base. Why don't you make some calls to some people who might actually know, Glenn would be one of them. But no, you chose to come up with your own (false) conclusions. On the other hand, as someone has already pointed out, every forum has a Ross Evans and this last post proves that point.

Wes clearly said he fired the guy. Wes owns the track.

Atleast come out and say Wes lied about it, if you really want to make your point.

But I will agree on something, this is a waste of time, and after today I don't give a flying %&&#%^. Sink Sunset and sink yourselves.

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marcisfan

Aug 25, 2008 6:39 pm

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OK, if Wes claims that he fired Mark, then he did in fact lie about it. Mark did the website and photos A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO!!! Wes bought the track THIS YEAR! Here is a post that is written in your style:

There are people on CRO that don't know what they are talking about. They think they do. Ross Evans is one of those people. Clearly he thought that he knew what he was talking about. Clearly he doesn't even know who Mark is. Clearly Ross knows nothing about the subject, and will no longer continue to post in this thread because he has been exposed as uneducated and misinformed!

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Doherty

Aug 25, 2008 6:41 pm

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LOL congrats you fail.....Mark never worked for Wes......Mark ended his tenure at Sunset at the end of the 2006 season....and Wes purchased the speedway this year not in 2006. So let me go get my Delorean and fire up the flux capacitor just to make the story happen the way you want.

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danno428cj

Aug 25, 2008 6:48 pm

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Sweet a Delorean!!!

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