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Who Killed the Sunset Four Funs???????????

Guest · 2008-08-19T18:54:01Z

Now that I have been thinking about this all day since the new rule changes with all of 5 or 6 nights to go has killed the division. I wanted to see where the blame laid for the death of this division and i came to the conclusion theres plenty of blame to go around.Lets start with the DRIVERS, now this has to be the most diverse group of people ever to get behind the wheel of a stock car(and no I don't care if these cars fit your definition of stock car). Now the new ownership group hasn't exactly shown these driver any amount of respect and these drivers have continually misplace there anger towards this. They started from about night 2 of the new ownership when the second round of heats were dropped and a consi was picked up starting only 24 cars in the A-Main. This then lead to the slower drivers to start filing complaints about how they deserve a last place payout or tow money. They then ended up getting what they wanted and on most nights even receive a "little feature" for those who do not qualify to the A-Main. But there complaining has not stopped there, the issue then arose that they did not get enough public viewing and they no longer wanted to be the last feature. Now there was a reason they were the last feature, the former ownership group realized how many cautions these inexperienced drivers could create and how long they can make a night. And once again the drivers yelled and they received. But as it was last time they still were not happy. So the person who was doing his best to help him became there next victim(yes thats right I'm the victim) the Tech Guy, some cars were going to fast and the slow cars and drivers could not keep up(in slow drivers view the fast guys were cheating). Now I teched a probably about 10 cars or so and measured springs checked tire sizes and rating, the muffler depending on the car, and even looked for hidden ballast weight. And came up with nothing. No one go DQ'd and that did not sit well with these drivers who do not win, so what happens, they race backwards and what happens people who should have never won a race end up winning and it was just wrong in my view and many others because thats not racing that a circus. So it all comes to a head when some certain 2 faced drivers(and they know who they are) whined to the new owner at the first drivers meeting he attends that I'm not doing my job and etc etc etc so in turn the owner insults me to all the drivers and I quit. Fred takes over Four Fun tech and the complaining goes away for a short period. They get what they want again and end up racing the correct way and the same winners end up in victory lane and the complaining comes back so what happens, the rules change and no camber and no different rim sizes and the complaining goes away. But the same winners and driver continue to finish in the top 5. Now thats just there off track issues. There on track issues were clearly visible Saturday night, disregard for your fellow drivers safety so that explains itself.Also with the majority of injuries over the last few years and dramatics of some of the drivers, now I'm not down playing any of the accident this year, but there have been certain drivers that pull dramatics after accidents and now make people think these accidents and injuries are not serious(anyone remember September of 2007 pm me if you want the story).So now that the drivers have done there part it is now onto the FLAGGING STAFF.Now every year in this division except this year the ZERO contact rule has been in effect, we have seen drivers intentionally flip other drivers and just flat out wreck each other. And for all of these accident the black flag has been used the issues are solved. Rob would come down to the drivers meeting and tell us that intentional contact would result in a black flag and the contact goes away and accidents stop. How many times last year and in 2006 did this division race flag to flag. This year I have personally not seen the black flag thrown and its resulted in some serious accidents. So pretty much all of Saturdays accident, all of which broke the camels back could have been prevented if the black flag had been used this year these drivers would have feared contact with each other and these accidents would not have taken place. I understand Rob no longer flags the 4 cylinder divisions but something needed to be done and it never was. Next up is Tech StaffNow I told you my track record as Tech Man and the record in the post Rainman time. Now there were 3 Dqs in 2007 if I remember correctly, I was nailed once(heater core) as well as Terry Woodly(snow tires) and Bill Campbell(H rated tires on the borrowed track VW Jetta). Now Fred`s view of the rules was the same as many, as long as it was with in stock adjustment it was good, its a beginner and a learning division and without allowing drivers to adjust there cars how are they suppose to learn. So in my view the Tech Staff did nothing ...

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slide112

Aug 24, 2008 1:13 pm

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You got your wish, won't be anywhere near Peteborough. Kids bike races, carnival side shows, legends, and unsafe can't be bothered to put any effort into 4-funs... I run with the big boys..

Mr Ross, over the last couple weeks you have said something on about every subject at sunset speedway. you don't run there so why do you care so much or do you have to have the last word on everything. Why don't you just stick to posting about Kawartha and how long the line up is at the food bus.

Hmm Last I checked this was a PUBLIC forum... Correct me if I am wrong on that..
Mr. Ross can Post endlessly for the furthest Track away, Who cares... Seems to me, if you dont hear what you want (Like) you bitch and whine about ppl posting on a track forum they dont ALWAYS attend...
Suck it up 😉

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rossevans30

Aug 24, 2008 6:16 pm

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You got your wish, won't be anywhere near Peteborough. Kids bike races, carnival side shows, legends, and unsafe can't be bothered to put any effort into 4-funs... I run with the big boys..

Mr Ross, over the last couple weeks you have said something on about every subject at sunset speedway. you don't run there so why do you care so much or do you have to have the last word on everything. Why don't you just stick to posting about Kawartha and how long the line up is at the food bus.

No problem. The fries at the bus are really good. The burgers arn't the best, try peameal on a bun.

I care because I have run there, and I would like to do so again. I like to support racing. Plus I would rather help put out the fire at Sunset, rather than have a FEW whiners come to one of the track I run fulltime (notice I run some track fulltime Kawartha and Mosport, and I RUN other tracks like Sunset)

What I have posted on here, is common sence. I will continue to do so. Ask any driver in the pit, what they think about 4-fun safety. Go ask Tom or a respected driver like that.

If I a few want to post publicly here, a foolish oppion, and then attack the track because they didn't get their way, I will continue to correct them, with the oppion of the majority of racers out there.

We have ex employees of the track trying to start with stuff that dosn't involve them, scoring of cars they don't even drive. You have people that are so misguided that they have a deathwish, then want to belame the track.

Sorry, but sunset drew 38 thunder drivers on a regular point night. Thats the reality of the track.

Wanna post something stupid, I'll be here to call you out on it...

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Peanut Butter

Aug 24, 2008 8:07 pm

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Mr Ross, over the last couple weeks you have said something on about every subject at sunset speedway. you don't run there so why do you care so much or do you have to have the last word on everything. Why don't you just stick to posting about Kawartha and how long the line up is at the food bus.

Thought I would take a look at the other boards (Kawartha and Mosport) and now I know why Ross spends so much time on the Sunset Board. Absolutely nothing going on in the other boards. I guess if you need to be heard, you go to where the audience is. Kinda like a guy at a busy street corner holding a sign saying Jesus is coming.

BTW Ross did you see the leaders again this weekend as they passed you? LOL

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rossevans30

Aug 24, 2008 9:19 pm

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Thought I would take a look at the other boards (Kawartha and Mosport) and now I know why Ross spends so much time on the Sunset Board. Absolutely nothing going on in the other boards. I guess if you need to be heard, you go to where the audience is. Kinda like a guy at a busy street corner holding a sign saying Jesus is coming.

BTW Ross did you see the leaders again this weekend as they passed you? LOL

You should come out to Kawartha and see for youself who passed who... 😉

Considering you looked at the other boards, I would have assumed you would figured out why I don't post there. But since you didn't let me explain. 1) there are no issue as either track 2) no one really posts in either topic 3) I get to speak to the guys face to face every week 4) both tracks are a little bit more active on facebook than they are here, and you will find that I'm on both the groups, and talking there

Any more I can help you with?

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Thunder6

Aug 25, 2008 12:48 am

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Okay, so all of you have had your say, and quite honestly it is now getting out of hand.

If you have issues with the cancellation of the Four Fun class you should take that up personally with the Speedway. The decision was made on that level, and you, as a competitor in that series should take that up with the proper people.

Secondly I do not understand how where someone works has any relevance to this forum. I don't understand how someone would suggest that being in the service of the public is a bad thing, much less the owner of the speedway making comment about the employer of a member of this site. It has nothing to do with racing. There are members here who work in the public service, whether with the military, police or fire departments, municipal, provincial or federal government. There are also others who work for private business, including Speedway staff, and sponsors who frequent this site.

I was asked to sort out this mess, so I am now saying if people keep going with this thread the way it has been going, they will be warned, or banned.

"Dont be BEECH! And as always comrades, have nice day" fpsrussia

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