I have heard of more people going to varney unfortunately.

u running varney thayner?

well, there is no open late models, if that is what you mean. kawartha, ottawa, delaware and flamboro have real late models, rest of tracks only use late model name as cars are actually limited late model. this just confuses people, maybe time for tracks to get their shit together and tell people what really is running. have heard this a thousand times from fans but not one promoter will come on here and explain, but then why should they, they just want your money.

they're just trying to force the llm cars into becoming late models , should have left everything alone they had better car counts a few years back i would say.

racerrob, totally agree with you on that! but hey, these promoters seem to have short memories. this has been tried before with other divisions as well , odd time it works but for most part it does not.