I will agree that many LLM cars could not be changed to be competitive ACT cars but a handfull could be at least competitive. If you go to some racing classified sites and see what ACT cars are going for in the US right now I would bet it is cheaper than what some of the top LLM guys have into their cars. I think Craig is at least getting the ACT crate but not sure about the rest. He was competitive in his LLM last year, top 5 or 6 car and I think he can be close to that with his converted car. Maybe not 5th but I can see him being a consistent 7th or 8th place car. I'm sure he would be happy with that in his first season. Glad to see Delisle is moving up.

From Jr's mouth with the rules given to LLM to run with LM they have the advantage.And also you want to know how screwed up racing around here is ,you can run thunder at Mosport LLM any where and LM at Kawartha all with the same chassis and motor.

Assuming the Jr you're talking about is Hanley, I would suggest that's a bit of gamesmanship on his part Slowel. If that's really the case, I would guess he'd suggest to Jackson that he should be running a LLM this season; I don't think we're going to see that. I do totally agree with you about how various promoters are screwing things up however; You're totally right that the same car could be Thunder, LLM or ACT LM; it sounds absolutely ridiculous but it's true.

Slowel,

I was thinking the same thing last week when I received the new Kawartha rules.  Now I don't think there are very many existing LLM that would be able to take full advantage of the new LLM rule breaks to run LM but there probably are a few.  If they are newer light weight frame under LLM's like Walters, Baker,Parsons, Morrow that can take advantage of the weight break and get the extra left side advantage they may just surprise some of the LM teams. The 602 with the bigger carb and better headers with the same clutch package may just have a slight advantage over the ZZ4.  I was wondering if there was anybody that might take advantage of the LLM breaks and build a new car to the LLM specs.  Of course if that happens I would bet in 2010 the LLM rules breaks are gone for Kawartha LM.  I hope somebody with a good LLM that can take full advantage of all the rule concessions gives it a try.

Keith

If memory serves me correct, didn't Walters run very very well in McWerter's LLM at the sizzler in 06 aginst full on late models before the race was an ACT show and the cars where faster.