I'll defend my fellow spotter Jay...we're just on the radio, we don't turn the steering wheels!

Having said that, we spotters do have the best all-round view. When Jesse caught up to the #37 on Friday night, I told David that the #10 was quicker and there was room to get in behind Jesse. That didn't mean pull over and let him pass, it just let David know that he wouldn't lose several positions if the #10 got a nose inside. So, in that case, a nose to the quarter panel may have been enough for David to back out. But if there had been a line of 5 cars ready to move inside with Jesse, you can bet the nose would need to be to the door before David would give the position up.

Drivers and spotters have to use common sense and see the big picture. Dropping one position is better than wrecking and finishing 23rd.

My two cents.
If the driver didn't go through the grass or down through pit out to get under your rear then you went up the track.
If you went up, it's an invitation to drive under you. If you come back down, it's buyer beware.
If you stayed on the bottom and the car behind used some other creative way to get a nose under you, the let the black flag fly.

I always understood it to be that way.

You only use the "up to the door rule" if the class runs without mirrors or you're in some Vintage class racing for show.

BTW - that's why there is a line around the bottom of the track, it's a reference for the officials to see if you've kept your line. Can't see as you'd need it otherwise.

Now, that's only from a Black Flag or not point of view.
Making the car ahead pay for his/her mistake, well, that's up to the wheel in the car behind.

Glad to see you jumping here Jesse. Like you say what happened Friday is history now and we both know it wasnt intentional. I however believe the racing in the LM division changed quite abit when we went to spotters. Thanks for the support Brett but I do think some of the guys let their spotters drive the cars as much as they do. The lates should have went to the one way radios like the rest of the divisions did. IMO the race lengths we run at DS dont warrant two way radio comunication with the drivers. The racing seemed cleaner without them if memory serves. When I used to run a LM i didnt want to know if a guy had his nose under me, let me know when hes there ( at the door ) then we'll worry about it. Without the radio's you just new if he was or wasnt. If you cant see him hes not there was the attitude and the guy peeking would normally back out. having said that I do believe the racing is getting cleaner than years past. I know it doesnt seem like that to some of the teams that have had some or alot of bad luck lately but it I think it is. Its a great class and for the life of me I cant understand why the guys dont or cant respect each others equipment like you think they would considering the extensive amount of time, money and effort that goes into running one of them.

Oh by the way Maudsley your buying the burgers tonight so be there early.

my thoughts about the late model division, and drivers goes like this, in the 6 or 7 late model features this year our car has been on the hook for 3 of them, because of wreckes not of our doing, the last one last friday night as the 72 thinks that he is going to go throw us rather than using the top groove and go around us. We  were running in the 16th position when he turned us into the inside wall. Drivers in this class are suppose to know what there doing, but time and time again, prove how they cannot drive a nail with a good hammer. These drives need to be parked and lose all winnings untill they understand that this is not cup racing, or have them pay the bill to fix the car. Some one is going to get killed because of the stupid and senceless actions of so called late model drivers. Thanks

We came to Delaware to run the full season in 09'  because of how we were treated by both the track staff and drivers the past four seasons.  Our home track is Flamboro, we are stronger there than at Delaware (for now), but we show respect to the visitors when they come to race with us. I feel I'm getting the same respect at Delaware.  At neutral tracks, like Sauble we run against each other and there are no issues.   Delaware is different because it's so fast and all racers need to take their time and slowly work to the top 15 and then the top 10. We are getting ready to battle at the higher level, the results haven't shown it, but I can tell as my confidence increases to where I feel comfortable running in a pack or on the outside. If I don't I stay back, it's not fun, but it helps me figure out what we need to get up a few more spots. It may take two years to get to run Delaware like we do at Flamboro.
Delaware has a good thing going and I hope full fields continue for the rest of this season and some racers come to Flamboro to run on Saturday nights.
Jamie, you got the story right, although I think there was 5 to go when he got by.