Latemodel28 what is the price of the 604 crate engine that Flamboro and Delaware LM use? Yes you are correct when you say you can spend almost as much on LLM as a LM but my point is you don't have to spend that much, and you can still be competitive at Barrie. The Barrie Champions car of Baker was an old Alstar car last run in Alstar several years ago by Derrick Downey car number 77. The second place car of Mcloud was an old Cascar chassis that was purchased complete for less than $15,000 prior to the 2007 season. So you don't need a new $40,000 to $50,000 McColl car to win at Barrie, which seems to be the case at Delaware. What is the shock rule at Flamboro or should I say how much were the shocks worth on the top running cars? What are the brake calipers worth on the top cars? Not trying to be smart just don't know what parts you guys run for shocks and calipers. Do you have a tire limit per night rule at Flamboro? As for the weekly payout of $1000 to win not sure about Flamboro but Delaware runs a 50 lap feature on a 1/2 mile track where Barrie is 35 laps on a small tight 1/3 mile. This makes weekly expenses less at Barrie.
You are correct Flamboro and Delaware run a few specials that pay good. But there season end points payout is not that good. So in comparison it is alot more cost efficient to run Barrie than Delaware and Flamboro. I would love to see Flamboro and Delaware raise there weekly and yearly points payouts to reward there drivers/teams and help this keep sport alive and thrive in the future!
But in the end run Location is going to be the biggest factor, noone is going to travel and extra 3 hours for an extra 200 bucks.
You are correct Flamboro and Delaware run a few specials that pay good. But there season end points payout is not that good. So in comparison it is alot more cost efficient to run Barrie than Delaware and Flamboro. I would love to see Flamboro and Delaware raise there weekly and yearly points payouts to reward there drivers/teams and help this keep sport alive and thrive in the future!
What's the evidence on the season end points fund? At Delaware there is no Nascar license fee to offset and this year the top 5 drivers in points in each division along with like 4 crew members got free membership as well as free pit entry to every event they race at. No entry fees! They race for free! THATS a good way to reward those that keep the sport alive.
Latemodel28 what is the price of the 604 crate engine that Flamboro and Delaware LM use? Yes you are correct when you say you can spend almost as much on LLM as a LM but my point is you don't have to spend that much, and you can still be competitive at Barrie. The Barrie Champions car of Baker was an old Alstar car last run in Alstar several years ago by Derrick Downey car number 77. The second place car of Mcloud was an old Cascar chassis that was purchased complete for less than $15,000 prior to the 2007 season. So you don't need a new $40,000 to $50,000 McColl car to win at Barrie, which seems to be the case at Delaware. What is the shock rule at Flamboro or should I say how much were the shocks worth on the top running cars? What are the brake calipers worth on the top cars? Not trying to be smart just don't know what parts you guys run for shocks and calipers. Do you have a tire limit per night rule at Flamboro? As for the weekly payout of $1000 to win not sure about Flamboro but Delaware runs a 50 lap feature on a 1/2 mile track where Barrie is 35 laps on a small tight 1/3 mile. This makes weekly expenses less at Barrie.
You are correct Flamboro and Delaware run a few specials that pay good. But there season end points payout is not that good. So in comparison it is alot more cost efficient to run Barrie than Delaware and Flamboro. I would love to see Flamboro and Delaware raise there weekly and yearly points payouts to reward there drivers/teams and help this keep sport alive and thrive in the future!
Race8fan the price of the crate engine at flamboro is $5200. I am not sure of the shocks that other teams ran but i know that we ran the QA1 rebuildable shocks. As for calipers we run the same ones as LLM, single piston. There is no tire per night rule at flamboro. The tires we run are very reliable and can last 2-3 weeks for the outsides. Doherty makes a good point, a lot of the racers from flamboro and delaware race there because of location.
Doherty you are correct a couple of hundred bucks will not make somebody travel an extra 3 hours. But it is only 20 minutes from Sunset to Barrie so $200 bucks for 20 mins, okay 40 mins (there and back) is pretty good money wish my day job payed $200 for 40 mins. Plus Latemodel28 mentioned most of these tracks pay $1000 to win, maybe Flamboro and Delaware LM's but not Sunset, Varney, Peterboro, Mosport, and Kawartha LLM, I think they pay between $500 to $800 on a regular night. Somebody might drive/tow a little further for a substantial increase in year end payout or the chance to be acknowleged in front of a huge crowd of race people as the Ontario Nascar Champion, just ask Dwayne how much fun he had in Vegas.
As for Delaware and Flamboro I don't think any of the top teams would switch to Barrie but what about the 6th to 15th place cars that are running for $400 to $200 a night. Surely a 6th to 15th LM could run top three in a LLM field, well maybe not.